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  • Arfrsairbrush
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    • Mar 2012
    • 217

    Arisaka model??








    I have an arisaka that i cannot figure out... I think it is a variation of the type 99 because of the single gas port, but i cant find anything about the stamps and the serial number. Ive hade one person think that it may be a trainer, but the barrel has a twist inside of it. Except for the rear sight, all numbers on the rifle are matching. it is also missing the front sight. The rifle was my grandfathers and it had been sporterised, but i dont know if it was his doing. Any information would be great!
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    Last edited by Arfrsairbrush; 01-28-2014, 7:53 PM. Reason: Wrong picture
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    Armistice
    Veteran Member
    • May 2013
    • 2668

    Pic of the characters that would be under the Mum?



    The very last character will be "type". We say "Type 99" whereas Japanese say "99 Type"
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    Judging from the last shoot I think we are the wrong group to ask about sighting in Mosins haha.
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      Arfrsairbrush
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 217

      Stupid question... Is the mum and the crysthanamum the same thing

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        McNally M.
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        • Nov 2011
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        Originally posted by Arfrsairbrush
        Stupid question... Is the mum and the crysthanamum the same thing
        Yes they are.
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          emcon5
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          • Sep 2009
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          Originally posted by Arfrsairbrush
          Stupid question... Is the mum and the crysthanamum the same thing
          Yeah.

          Mum:

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          • #6
            Arfrsairbrush
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 217

            So either the mum was ground down really nice and the current symbol was stamped on, or there was never a mum. It is odd to see the different characters and numbers on it. I cant determine if it was a trainer, if it was re issued in another country, or if it is a hidden gem that is worth millions. If somebody actually knows, please chip in!!
            Last edited by Arfrsairbrush; 01-28-2014, 8:30 PM. Reason: Editing

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            • #7
              cplbuck
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              • Nov 2010
              • 113

              It's a Type 38. Still has the mum stamp on it.

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                Discogodfather
                CGN Contributor
                • Feb 2010
                • 5516

                According to the book, there was a super rare and unexplained double circle version, one circle inside the other. No mention of anything without a mum.

                You could give restoration a try:

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                  emcon5
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                  • Sep 2009
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                  I seem to recall some rifles had different markings, school rifles in particular. The Mum was for military rifles.

                  You may find more info here: http://www.castle-thunder.com/model.htm

                  On edit:
                  Originally posted by cplbuck
                  It's a Type 38. Still has the mum stamp on it.
                  You mean mine? Can't see on the OPs rifle.

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                    Arfrsairbrush
                    Member
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 217

                    Originally posted by cplbuck
                    It's a Type 38. Still has the mum stamp on it.
                    Wrong rifle...
                    Last edited by Arfrsairbrush; 01-28-2014, 8:57 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Armistice
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                      • May 2013
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                      You posted one pic already. Post another of the stampings on the receiver
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                      Originally posted by ThemBastards
                      Judging from the last shoot I think we are the wrong group to ask about sighting in Mosins haha.
                      Originally posted by knucklehead0202
                      I don't want dreamcatchers or AR crap, I want ugly old guns!

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                      • #12
                        Arfrsairbrush
                        Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 217

                        Are my pictures not visible?
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                        Last edited by Arfrsairbrush; 01-28-2014, 9:14 PM.

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                        • #13
                          emcon5
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                          Originally posted by Arfrsairbrush
                          Are my pictures not visible?
                          Only one, a side view with the floor plate open.

                          There is some info on the archive of an old web site here:

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                          • #14
                            highpower
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2012
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                            I'm no Arisaka expert, but that upper character looks like an anchor. If so, it could be a naval issued rifle.
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                              Arfrsairbrush
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                              • Mar 2012
                              • 217

                              I researched that archive before and no luck. At first i thought i had the korea stamp on it, but the archive was lacking the circle inside it. I also thought navy too, but its odd that it only has roman style numbers on it

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