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  • 304tmt
    Member
    • Jan 2013
    • 481

    Springfield m1922m1

    So I have this old rifle that was my great grandpa's. That was passed to my dad and then my dad gave it to me years ago. I've done a brief google search on it and found some useful info. But mainly I would like to know if i can make this rifle serviceable and wanted to see if anyone knew something about its history?

    I'm not familiar with this rifle at all. There is no fcg and the bolt just comes right out. Looks like there is some other parts missing as well. I will take more pics later. Thanks

    Here's some pics
  • #2
    highpower
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2012
    • 5294

    That is a very rare rifle you have there. They were made in the early part of the twentieth century in limited quantities by Springfield Armory so troops could practice their marksmanship and the manual of arms using .22 ammo. It is missing a few parts including the front sight. Google John Beard and get in touch with him to get further info on your rifle. He may have the parts you need or know where you can get them.

    Resist the urge to clean it up until you learn the proper way to do it. Use light machine oil and 0000 steel wool on the metal parts. Rub gently and most of the rust will come off. The wood should be removed and cleaned separately. I have had success in the past using regular wood stripper to get the gunk out of the stock. DO NOT SAND THE WOOD. Let me repeat: DO NOT SAND THE WOOD. Use steel wool only to remove the fuzz that will be raised by the stripping process. Then rub the wood down with boiled linseed oil. That is all you need to get a nice finish.
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    • #3
      Crunch130
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2010
      • 750

      Shooter or wallhanger? It would be nice to bring it back as a shooter. Follow highpower's advice.

      Clean the bore and tell us how it looks. The triggers for most bolt action service rifles are pretty simple. IF this rifle takes the same trigger as a standard 1903 or 1903A3 Springfield rifle, that will be easy to find.

      I'm looking forward to seeing this one brought back. Please post progress reports.

      Thanks,
      Crunch
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      • #4
        Father Ted
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2013
        • 889

        Nice, rare rifle. Looks like it was left outside for a while. Follow advice from above and go about restoration slow and gently. There must be some type of bolt release like the 1903 (mag cutoff in mid position) snd yours is either in that position now or its missing. Unfortunately, i dont have one of those rifles snd dont know the intracasies or whether it has same mag cutoff as 1903 for training purposes. I wouldn't worry about handguard not matching stock. Post some pics in 1903 section or trainer section of Milsurps.com and I'm sure you will get alot of info and parts sourcing there as well.
        Cheers
        Last edited by Father Ted; 01-24-2014, 10:50 AM.
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        • #5
          mj1
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3318

          Last magazine I saw for sale was $100. Good luck
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          • #6
            Irrelavant
            Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 356

            Nice project. It is very cool that you are going to honor that family heirloom and amazing piece of history.

            Give this website a try. http://www.gunpartscorp.com/Manufact...22M1-42097.htm

            Numrich has a schematic of the rifle, and may even stock the parts you need. At the very least, you can see what you are missing.

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            • #7
              Milsurp Collector
              Calguns Addict
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 5884

              That's a Springfield M1922 MI action in neglected condition that someone installed in a M1903 S-type stock. The M1922 had a couple of unique stocks and a special barrel band. It would be quite a project to restore it since the parts are scarce.

              This is my M2 version, updated from a MI. You can see the hand-struck "I" to make the "I" into a "II". Some were originally drilled and tapped for a scope mount.








              The magazines are usually over $100 when you can find one.

              Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 01-25-2014, 1:42 AM.
              Revolvers are not pistols

              pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
              Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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              • #8
                mj1
                Veteran Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 3318

                This is what your rifle should look like when done. Mr highpower told me a few years ago my rifle was a fugazie and some garage hack job. LOL The rifle in #7 post is a whole nuther critter.

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                Last edited by mj1; 01-25-2014, 12:50 PM.
                WTS As new M47 Madsen 3006 w/bayonet.
                WTS NIB Mosin 91/59
                I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
                The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are.

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                • #9
                  Milsurp Collector
                  Calguns Addict
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 5884

                  Originally posted by mj1
                  This is what your rifle should look like when done.

                  The rifle in #7 post is a whole nuther critter.
                  I don't know what type of rifle yours is, but the OP's is a M1922MI as marked on the receiver ring. According to my references (U.S. Martial .22RF Rifles by Batha and The Springfield 1903 Rifles by Brophy) no M1922MI was issued with a full length stock or handguard, and they didn't have barrel-mounted ladder sights. They had Lyman rear sights. You can see on the OP's rifle that someone made an extension on the handguard to cover up the rear of the barrel where it joins the receiver.

                  My rifle started out as a M1922MI just like the OP's. When it was upgraded with a M2 bolt as many were the designation was changed to MII. So it isn't "a whole nuther critter". It is the same rifle except for the bolt.

                  Here's another one like mine, M1922MI with MII upgrade http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=32294
                  Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 01-25-2014, 10:04 AM.
                  Revolvers are not pistols

                  pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                  Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                  ExitCalifornia.org

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                  • #10
                    SoldierLife7
                    Joe Exotic For President
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 2420

                    Time to get the tape measures out...




                    Nice rifle OP... do some research, take your time, and you will be very pleased with it! Please keep us posted with updates and lots of pics!!

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                    • #11
                      Milsurp Collector
                      Calguns Addict
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5884

                      Originally posted by mj1
                      I defer to your books and personnel knowledge always being 110% correct and never needing amending after the print date.
                      No need to get nasty with the sarcasm. Sarcasm is not a substitute for an intelligent rebuttal.

                      Now that I see that it is a M1922 M2 with a ladder sight and full length stock, I agree with Mr. Highpower: it's fugazie and some garage hack job. Sorry.

                      There's a correct M1922 M2 in this thread http://www.milsurps.com/showthread.php?t=43577



                      Nice inletting of the stock around the receiver ring. Looks like Springfield Armory's work no doubt.

                      Last edited by Milsurp Collector; 01-25-2014, 1:19 PM.
                      Revolvers are not pistols

                      pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                      Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                      ExitCalifornia.org

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                      • #12
                        304tmt
                        Member
                        • Jan 2013
                        • 481

                        Hey sorry I lost my phone ( left it on the roof and drove off). And I'm moving. I will update once I get everything squared up. I am looking forward to getting this thing operational. And yes it's spent it's life since I've been around in the garage.

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