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  • Falstaff
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 2317

    Can I give my BIL in New York a C&R rifle?

    Anyone know how I could go about transferring (legally) a C&R rifle to my BIL who lives in New York? He was sorta on the fence about gun control, but we took him shooting over the holiday and he really enjoyed shooting one of my M44's. He was born and raised in a comm block nation but is now a legal resident and professor at an ivy league school. I think it would be wonderful to get more people in in academia to become responsible gun owners and take some of the hysteria out of the equation.
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    Quiet
    retired Goon
    • Mar 2007
    • 30241

    What part of NY?
    What kind of C&R rifle?
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    • #3
      Mssr. Eleganté
      Blue Blaze Irregular
      CGN Contributor - Lifetime
      • Oct 2005
      • 10401

      Originally posted by Quiet
      What part of NY?
      Yeah, if it's Cornell in Ithaca then you have a chance. If it's Columbia in Manhattan then you might be out of luck.
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      • #4
        Enfield47
        Calguns Addict
        • Sep 2012
        • 6385

        Oh yeah, I forgot about the no guns in Manhattan. I'm surprised they are allowed to get away with that after the Supreme Court rulings against Chicago and DC for the same type of asinine laws.

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        • #5
          stevied
          Senior Member
          • May 2006
          • 638

          Originally posted by Enfield47
          Oh yeah, I forgot about the no guns in Manhattan. I'm surprised they are allowed to get away with that after the Supreme Court rulings against Chicago and DC for the same type of asinine laws.
          Bloomberg will make sure that he gets his way...or tries his hardest.
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          • #6
            Inoxmark
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2005
            • 741

            Until the end of last year if you were a C&R licensee you could legally give/sell to him your C&R rifle at your licensed location (home). This is still OK under fed laws, not sure if OK under new CA law, probably not.
            Whether it's legal for him to return to his state with his new old rifle, no idea.
            If you are not a licensee you'd have to ship it to FFL in NY for transfer.

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            • #7
              Mssr. Eleganté
              Blue Blaze Irregular
              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
              • Oct 2005
              • 10401

              Originally posted by Inoxmark
              Until the end of last year if you were a C&R licensee you could legally give/sell to him your C&R rifle at your licensed location (home). This is still OK under fed laws, not sure if OK under new CA law, probably not.
              It's no longer OK under the new California law. The buyer would now need a C&R FFL because of AB 809.
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              • #8
                Flyin Brian
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Oct 2009
                • 3395

                Originally posted by Inoxmark
                Until the end of last year if you were a C&R licensee you could legally give/sell to him your C&R rifle at your licensed location (home). This is still OK under fed laws, not sure if OK under new CA law, probably not.
                Whether it's legal for him to return to his state with his new old rifle, no idea.
                If you are not a licensee you'd have to ship it to FFL in NY for transfer.
                It's pretty clear the BIL does not have a C&R license as he is described as an anti-gunner, so how would it be legal to sell him a rifle when he doesn't have an FFL and is not a resident of the same state? I'm not talking about CA law, I'm asking about your statement saying it is "still OK under fed laws"
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                • #9
                  Inoxmark
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2005
                  • 741

                  Originally posted by Flyin Brian
                  It's pretty clear the BIL does not have a C&R license as he is described as an anti-gunner, so how would it be legal to sell him a rifle when he doesn't have an FFL and is not a resident of the same state? I'm not talking about CA law, I'm asking about your statement saying it is "still OK under fed laws"
                  Exactly as I said, under federal law a licensee (with FFL03) can transfer C&R firearm to non-licensee from any state at his licensed location, which for most FFL03 holders is their home. That is the only exception. That transfer still needs to comply with applicable state and local laws, which means we can no longer do it. But we could two weeks ago.

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