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  • #16
    CEDaytonaRydr
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 4109

    Originally posted by Mud Eagle
    It is very typical to have M1 Carbine type 2 or 3 (those are the types with adjustable windage) cranked off center to shoot "straight". Not an indicator of there being something righteously wrong with your Carbine.
    Garands are the same way. I think I've only ever owned one Garand that didn't have to have the windage moved to hit center, and I've owned 10-12 in my life.

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    • #17
      blackrat
      Senior Member
      • Mar 2011
      • 1103

      My blue sky needs some serious windage adjustment but it'll put them all in the same hole. From what I read when they re tooled these they didn't do sighting in procedures. In my case the front sight hasn't been filed down either so it shoots very low.

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      • #18
        Tom-ADC
        Veteran Member
        • Apr 2010
        • 3614

        Originally posted by C&Rtrader
        Should have mentioned, and why i asked, I heard blue sky bent some of the barrels when they stamped them.
        I have a Blue Sky actually had two when they first came out, both were lightly stamped (early one?) and shot/shoot where they are pointed. Sold one few years after I bought it still have the Winchester.
        BTW I heard the same thing about the later ones, something about not being stamped deep enough
        US Navy Retired, NRA Lifetime member. Member CRPA

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        • #19
          Milsurp Collector
          Calguns Addict
          CGN Contributor
          • Jan 2009
          • 5884

          When people complain about M1 Carbines shooting to the side of the point of aim, usually it is to the right, not the left. There are multiple threads in the CMP forums about carbines shooting to the right, so it is odd to hear about one shooting to the left.
          Revolvers are not pistols

          pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
          Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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          • #20
            Enfield47
            Calguns Addict
            • Sep 2012
            • 6385

            Did they mention what the cause might be for shooting to the right? I guess I ended up with the odd duck rifle that just has to be different.

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            • #21
              Milsurp Collector
              Calguns Addict
              CGN Contributor
              • Jan 2009
              • 5884

              Originally posted by Enfield47
              Did they mention what the cause might be for shooting to the right? I guess I ended up with the odd duck rifle that just has to be different.
              No one knows, it's just not uncommon for them to shoot to the right.
              Revolvers are not pistols

              pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
              Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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              • #22
                Fate
                Calguns Addict
                • Apr 2006
                • 9545

                If you aren't "chicken-winging" your trigger arm at a 90 degree angle (as was taught in WWII), it won't sit in your shoulder pocket the same as it would when shooting "modern style."

                Inconsistent (or different) buttstock placement on your shoulder when shooting can throw off rounds. So if it was originally sighted one way, it will shoot different if you use another buttstock shoulder placement.
                Last edited by Fate; 01-06-2014, 2:05 PM.
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                • #23
                  bigbossman
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 11082

                  Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
                  When people complain about M1 Carbines shooting to the side of the point of aim, usually it is to the right, not the left. There are multiple threads in the CMP forums about carbines shooting to the right, so it is odd to hear about one shooting to the left.
                  The last carbine I got shot about 10" to the right, and it had a brand new "never been fired: barrel on it. I just used a flat punch to drift the rear sight to the left, and zeroed the windage that way. No muss, no fuss, no special tool needed nor any staking in place involved. The rear sight is plenty snug in the dovetail.
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                  • #24
                    Twystd1
                    Superfluous
                    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 2692

                    Take a close up pic of your crown and post it up here.

                    A dinged crown will DRAMATICALLY effect the POI of a rifle.

                    Thats where I would start.

                    If you are near Orange County. And you need a recrown job.
                    I can re-crown your barrell in 15 minutes. For free. (PM me)

                    Lets see the crown pics so we can take that question out of the equation.

                    -T

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                    • #25
                      cqbdude
                      Senior Member
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 854

                      I just acquired a carbine that shoots right and high.
                      Had to crank the sight all the way to the left...

                      I will try to drift the whole rear sight to the left.

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                      • #26
                        Enfield47
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Sep 2012
                        • 6385

                        Here is a close up pic of the crown. The knicks at the top of the barrel were the ones I was most concerned about. None of them are into the lands or grooves that I can tell.

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                        • #27
                          ccandgc
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 2142

                          M1 Carbine Help Needed

                          Looks ok to me.....I'm still betting on the rear sight.
                          -Chad

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                          • #28
                            Enfield47
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Sep 2012
                            • 6385

                            I'll know for sure on Sunday if I can crank it to the right enough. After cleaning everything, I cranked the sight almost as far as it can go to the right. If that doesn't do it, I'll need to drift the sight to the right a bit.

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                            • #29
                              TRAP55
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 5536

                              Originally posted by Twystd1
                              If you are near Orange County. And you need a recrown job. I can re-crown your barrell in 15 minutes. For free. (PM me)
                              -T
                              Can't beat an offer like that!
                              A clean up on that crown sure wouldn't hurt anything.

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                              • #30
                                Twystd1
                                Superfluous
                                CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 2692

                                Your crown job is a bit off center.

                                That will have an effect on your POI. This is PART of your problem. Albeit a small part. Yet still a issue.

                                Give me a PM with your phone number. Lets see if we can come up with some more answers.

                                -T

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