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  • ChopperX
    Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 381

    Long Gun Registration Form

    I think I found the form to use for long gun registration with C&R and COE holders to comply with 2014. It seems they have revised it and renamed it to "Curio and Relic Firearm Report"

    Here is the link. Curio and Relic Firearm Report Form

    If this is right then we should have this sticked in this forum.
  • #2
    pitfighter
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3152

    Thank you.
    Pitfighter.
    CA/AZ

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    • #3
      ChopperX
      Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 381

      Your welcome. I had to share since I can't find it here on Calguns yet. I was looking in the wrong place (ATF) but went to the CA DOJ site to look at the COE application form and there it was.

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      • #4
        GOEX FFF
        ☆ North Texas ☆
        CGN Contributor
        • Jun 2007
        • 7599

        Just to be clear...

        The "Curio or Relic Firearm Report" is used for reporting both C&R long guns and C&R handguns that are acquired physically from out-of-state with the "5 day" reg rule of returning to CA.
        Remember, you don't need a COE if you're physically in another state purchasing a C&R while holding an 03 FFL.


        This is the new in state C&R Long gun reg form with the "30 days of taking possession" reg rule, that appears to have been adopted but perhaps not officially released.
        It would also appear that this form is used for out-of-state shipments of C&R long guns to a CA COE + 03, since the final acquisition would be in state.



        Last edited by GOEX FFF; 01-02-2014, 2:53 PM.
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        • #5
          Capybara
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          • Feb 2012
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          Gaah, these sure do leave a sour taste in my mouth, but they are what they are. At least now we can buy anything in the book as C&Rs, that opens up possibilities for a few new guns for us. Sure would be be nice if someone went through the latest C&R book and made a sticky of what NEW items we can acquire now that we couldn't a few days ago (as C&Rs).
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          • #6
            GOEX FFF
            ☆ North Texas ☆
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            • Jun 2007
            • 7599

            Originally posted by Capybara
            Gaah, these sure do leave a sour taste in my mouth, but they are what they are. At least now we can buy anything in the book as C&Rs, that opens up possibilities for a few new guns for us. Sure would be be nice if someone went through the latest C&R book and made a sticky of what NEW items we can acquire now that we couldn't a few days ago (as C&Rs).
            Great Idea. Though I suspect that would take a butt-load of work to weed out what C&R's are over 50 years old, but still federally classified as C&R.

            In any case, here's the ATF list of C&R's -

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            • #7
              knucklehead0202
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              • Aug 2008
              • 4087

              kinda doubt it's that simple, has anyone got a link? there are many things on the federal list that are WAY too cool to send to Kalifornia.

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              • #8
                Capybara
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                • Feb 2012
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                Well, the caveat is always "if it meets all other California gun laws." Aren't you guys all hot to buy those gaudy inlaid John Wayne Commemorative 1894s they always had in American Rifleman?
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                • #9
                  GOEX FFF
                  ☆ North Texas ☆
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                  • Jun 2007
                  • 7599

                  Originally posted by Capybara
                  Well, the caveat is always "if it meets all other California gun laws." Aren't you guys all hot to buy those gaudy inlaid John Wayne Commemorative 1894s they always had in American Rifleman?
                  True.

                  Like there are AR's and AK's that ATF classifies as C&R but are still banned by name under the CA Roberti-Roos AWCA of 89'.

                  Colt AR-15 Sporter “The Vietnam Tribute Colt Special Edition”
                  .223 cal Semiautomatic rifle, bering the American Historical Foundation registry numbers of VT0001 through VT1500.

                  Norinco (Chinese) AK47S 5.56x45mm caliber, S/N 4003876

                  Norinco (Chinese) AK47S84-1 5.56x45mm caliber, S/N 30352

                  Norinco (Chinese) AK47S 7.62X39mm caliber, S/N 162012

                  How they came up with those specific AK serial numbers as C&R is anyones guess.

                  Heck, you'd think even original 1950's-1960's Armalite AR-15's and original semi-auto AK's made from 1947-1964 would have made the list but they're not there.
                  Last edited by GOEX FFF; 01-02-2014, 4:35 PM.
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                  • #10
                    ChopperX
                    Member
                    • Oct 2009
                    • 381

                    Thank you very much GOEX FFF for clarifying this. The in state form you listed didn't so up on the DOJ site by the time I saw the other one but it should be up soon since the other one is on there. I'll be on the lookout for the in-state form.

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                    • #11
                      GOEX FFF
                      ☆ North Texas ☆
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jun 2007
                      • 7599

                      No sweat!

                      Yeah, it's not on the front page of the CA DOJ forms.
                      You have to more or less type in key words in search field to find it. Hopefully they get the new in state form on the main page soon, so it won't be too confusing.
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                      • #12
                        SanPedroShooter
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                        • Jan 2010
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                        Would they need to make the list?

                        I thought the ATF has some blurb about the list being not inclusive and once a gun hits 50 years, its C&R regardless.

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                        • #13
                          C&Rtrader
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                          • May 2009
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                          That form makes me sad. Not so much for registration but for how much that is going to cost me over the coming years. So many other things I would like to do with that money.
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                          • #14
                            GOEX FFF
                            ☆ North Texas ☆
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                            • Jun 2007
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                            Originally posted by SanPedroShooter
                            Would they need to make the list?

                            I thought the ATF has some blurb about the list being not inclusive and once a gun hits 50 years, its C&R regardless.
                            No, you're right. I just found it interesting that they're not listed.
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                            • #15
                              ChopperX
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                              • Oct 2009
                              • 381

                              Well I'm going in for my Live Scan tomorrow for my COE to apply. Anything I should worry about? Also is $20 a respectable Live Scan operator fee? Going to the local UPS store where they have one.

                              Yea it would be nice to have an updated list of C&R's the DOJ's book is so old.

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