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  • Remus
    Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 431

    Modify M1 stock?

    I picked up a used Inland M1 Carbine recently that when fired the handguard has an annoying attribute to pop off the top of the gun. I've searched the internet and the common solution is to bend the metal tab (at the receiver side) to cause an upwards pressure on the barrel band side.

    That would be fine except that the clear distance between the receiver to the barrel band is only about 1/16" less than the overall length of the handguard. In other words, I have about 1/16" bite with maybe an 1/8" travel allowing the metal tab to disconnect from the receiver. Compounding is that the barrel band spring is longer than the cutout in the barrel band allowing for a slight rotation (further reducing that 1/16" bite). I found only one other person on the net with this problem but the OP bailed out of the thread with no resolution (about 2 years ago at Jousters).

    The stock and handguard match pretty well - the stock shows evidence that it has been dropped (a poorly patched piece of wood at the receiver) cracks in the fore-end and a V-shaped chip at the forward side of the recoil plate (the chip was recovered by the previous owner and placed so tightly back in that I didn't notice this until trying to "hang" the action with shims).

    Most of the hardware that I've seen is Inland, I believe the stock is Inland but it has obvious evidence of being worked on (patched wood with stain). I plan to epoxy fill the cracks with a syringe and to epoxy the chip back in place (am mulling over gluing a steel/brass pillar in that location).

    My questions are, has the stock lost all collector value? If I were to remove the slop in the handguard by cutting back the stock to locate the barrel band closer to the receiver and drilling a new barrel band spring hole (to accommodate new location) would I be beset with bad C&R karma?

    Gun shoots pretty well btw.

    Edit:

    I hope this doesn't bump this old thread to the top, but to ensure any others on the web that are having the same issue, I ultimately purchased a reproduction stock (Boyds). The handguard that came with it is slightly longer than the original. The gun now functions perfectly.
    Last edited by Remus; 04-11-2020, 6:35 PM.
  • #2
    Milsurp Collector
    Calguns Addict
    CGN Contributor
    • Jan 2009
    • 5884

    I would replace or modify the handguard rather than modify the stock, as it is more likely that the handguard is causing the problem. Can you add a shim to the front of the handguard so it sits farther to the rear, thereby increasing the engagement of the metal tab?
    Revolvers are not pistols

    pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
    Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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    • #3
      Remus
      Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 431

      Yea, shimming is a possibility, I tried it once by placing some small wooden shims to fit between the barrel band and the hand guard - failed miserably. I read that some people use leather. I will post the dimensions of the hand guard by tomorrow. I'm also mulling over purchasing a new manufacture stock and keeping the existing stock should I ever part with the gun.

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      • #4
        Milsurp Collector
        Calguns Addict
        CGN Contributor
        • Jan 2009
        • 5884

        Originally posted by Remus
        Yea, shimming is a possibility, I tried it once by placing some small wooden shims to fit between the barrel band and the hand guard - failed miserably.
        Did you glue them to the handguard? I have a M1 Carbine handguard that has a thin front "lip" (the part that goes under the barrel band) and it was rattly/loose. I glued a strip of walnut veneer to the lip to thicken it.
        Revolvers are not pistols

        pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
        Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

        ExitCalifornia.org

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        • #5
          CEDaytonaRydr
          Veteran Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 4141

          I've had that happen before...

          My solution was to buy and install one of the Korean era reproduction, vented handguards. Sure, it's not OEM but it looks cool, and doesn't fly off.

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          • #6
            Remus
            Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 431

            That vented handguard would definitely aid cooling.

            Total length of the handguard is 8", the total length including the wooden and metal tabs is 8-1/4. The clear distance between the barrel band and receiver is 8-1/8. When fully pushed into the barrel band the metal tab is shy of engagement with the receiver by about 1/16 - 1/32 allowing the handguard to come loose.

            I haven't tried using epoxy to lengthen the handguard yet - my preference just for visual reasons would be to bring the band closer to the receiver - unless the handguard is short. Wonder if all these years of being in guns safes has made the wood shrink slightly.

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