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  • harmoniums
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3488

    Lewis gun on gunbroker

    Want want want!






    full auto though
    Anybody know of a semi rebuild anywhere?




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    pitfighter
    Veteran Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 3141

    There was a parts kit for sale on GB a year or so ago - I saw the links on the 1919 forum - it sold for over $5K -
    There is an English company making non-firing replicas.

    The vent-cooling system for the air-cooled barrel shroud has always interested me, I don;t quite understand how it works, lol.
    Pitfighter.
    CA/AZ

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    • #3
      furyous68
      Senior Member
      • May 2010
      • 1878

      Maybe there are a bunch of fins that connect the barrel to the outer case of the shroud... like the cooling fins on your computer's CPU?

      I always thought they were water cooled.
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      • #4
        TRAP55
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5536

        Originally posted by pitfighter
        There was a parts kit for sale on GB a year or so ago - I saw the links on the 1919 forum - it sold for over $5K -
        There is an English company making non-firing replicas.

        The vent-cooling system for the air-cooled barrel shroud has always interested me, I don;t quite understand how it works, lol.
        Pit, the design in theory, used the muzzle blast, to draw ambient air through the aluminum barrel shroud for cooling. Never really proven to work though. Brits used them mounted on jeeps in North Africa without the shroud.
        furyous68, exactly what that is, aluminum heatsinks to draw heat from the chamber area.
        I got to squeeze off a drum full on one of these back in the early 80's when .303 was still cheap. Most fun you could have with your pants on.

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        • #5
          mj1
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2006
          • 3318

          The cool air is drawn/pulled in the rear by the gases and bullet leaving the front of air jacket.

          Lewis was another American who had to take his goods overseas to sell them.
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          • #6
            glennsche
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1831

            Originally posted by mj1
            The cool air is drawn/pulled in the rear by the gases and bullet leaving the front of air jacket.

            Lewis was another American who had to take his goods overseas to sell them.
            from the maxim gun, to the lewis gun, dating back even to mr. gatlings gun up thru the adoption of the first gen m16 seems like the US Army ordinance depts. have been stocked with the worst and dullest minds that institution can produce.

            lewis gun article in wiki is quite good


            and harmoniums you need to get that to match the bren gun in your arsenal.
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            • #7
              pitfighter
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 3141

              Ha - no I know in theory how the cooling system works - I just never grasped how it would actually work in practice - aluminum dampeners sound like a terrible way to cool a machine-gun barrel.
              Owning three water cooled guns and having shot one or two without water, just to see, lol - I always felt that the lewis barrels would heat up very quickly in those tubes unless a constant wind/breeze was hitting the front, to form a convection current - ie. in a bi-plane.

              Ref. Maxim, he was living in the UK because Edison was paying him to live there and to stop inventing electronics patents - his work on the machine-gun came after the move, he was already very successful - he sold the machinegun to the Europeans first because they were the ones fighting - he sold to anyone who would pay though, and took a particular satisfaction from out shooting and then out-selling Gatlings or Gardners.
              *Read his book on the Swedish MG trials. He was ruthless.

              But, I understand what you're saying, and it is true many great US inventors had to go to Europe to find recognition.
              Pitfighter.
              CA/AZ

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              • #8
                hambam105
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7083

                The cool air is drawn/pulled in the rear by the gases and bullet leaving the front of air jacket.
                So much for 2nd rule of thermodynamics, Heat to Cold
                And someone made a doo-hickee that reversed this concept and attached it to a Lewis Gun that wasn't a fan? Wow! I'm impressed. Pictures by any chance?

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                • #9
                  mj1
                  Veteran Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 3318

                  LOL

                  Originally posted by hambam105
                  So much for 2nd rule of thermodynamics, Heat to Cold
                  And someone made a doo-hickee that reversed this concept and attached it to a Lewis Gun that wasn't a fan? Wow! I'm impressed. Pictures by any chance?

                  The heat goes to the cool air via the doo-hickee, think about it. He virtually increased the the barrel surface 400%+ then pulled cool air through the jacket. I just picked 400% but look at many and most of the heavy MGs of the first half of the last century from the French, Japanese and others turned their barrels with fins, bulbs and clamp on extensions/heat sinks. this was easy and effective through the mid 70s and was taught in schools I went to.
                  WTS As new M47 Madsen 3006 w/bayonet.
                  WTS NIB Mosin 91/59
                  I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
                  The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are.

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                  • #10
                    hambam105
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 7083

                    Heat to Cold.

                    Even on our hottest days, air temp is nowhere near the heat of barrel, right?

                    So in your example, the 'cool air' that you are referring to is the temperature associated with the heat of the barrel.

                    It's not cool air coming in, it's hot air leaving. Heat to Cold.[U] The heat off the barrel is on it's way to the sky to balance the temperature of the atmosphere..Heat to Cold.

                    /U]

                    "The heat goes to the cool air via the doo-hickee,..." If you had a gadjet that brought ambient heat to an already hot Lewis barrel then Steve MaQueen would have been wiped-out in the movie, SandPebbles, and then we wouldn't have had a Car Chase in SF and there wouldn't have been a 1970 Ford Mustang.
                    And you all thought I was going to see my GF instead of attending Air Conditioning classes at night school.
                    Last edited by hambam105; 11-13-2013, 8:54 PM.

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                    • #11
                      DisgruntledReaper
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1863

                      Those are georgeous guns, wish I had the cash... oh and how about a transferable MAXIM! aucion over but here is the link for drooling pleasure... I want this more than a Lewis but would not kick either out of my house......

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                      • #12
                        DisgruntledReaper
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 1863

                        A tidbit of info.... in Star Wars, Storm troopers carried MG34's, a finned Lewis like this one ,the Blasters were Sterlings, Hans was a BH mauser, I think Leia's was a tarted up luger.... so much cool stuff in that movie....
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                        • #13
                          hambam105
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2013
                          • 7083

                          Oh yea, well I was the one who mentioned those props to Lucus and he used them alright, but he didn't include me in the royalties for my, technical 'a-sis-tawn'ce'.

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                          • #14
                            glennsche
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 1831

                            Originally posted by DisgruntledReaper
                            A tidbit of info.... in Star Wars, Storm troopers carried MG34's, a finned Lewis like this one ,the Blasters were Sterlings, Hans was a BH mauser, I think Leia's was a tarted up luger.... so much cool stuff in that movie....

                            "If the American Left wanted to decrease interest in shooting, they should have the government make it mandatory like they do here in Switzerland. Nothing makes you not want to do something like when the government makes you do it."

                            "I'm over you." -Citadelgrad87

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                            • #15
                              mj1
                              Veteran Member
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 3318

                              LOL

                              [QUOTE=hambam105;12760989]Heat to Cold.

                              Even on our hottest days, air temp is nowhere near the heat of barrel, right?

                              So in your example, the 'cool air' that you are referring to is the temperature associated with the heat of the barrel. WTF?

                              It's not cool air coming in, it's hot air leaving. Heat to Cold.[U] The heat off the barrel is on it's way to the sky to balance the temperature of the atmosphere..Heat to Cold.


                              What ever you say your the expert and must be smarter than the instructors I had.

                              It's an air pump in their books. LOL
                              WTS As new M47 Madsen 3006 w/bayonet.
                              WTS NIB Mosin 91/59
                              I will deliver or ship, details to be arranged with buyer.
                              The Spartans do not ask how many the enemies are but where they are.

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