C&R Change?

[panzerman]

I just bought a 1905 Winchester on GB from an FFl 01 in New Hampshire who tells me that the law in CA requires me to provide them with a 5 digit code in order to allow them to ship the firearm to me???? Prior to bidding I had asked if he accepted C&R on this rifle and he replied yes. What code is he talking about? I did not think we needed a COE until Jan 01, 2014.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I have no idea what he is referring to, but GB is rampant with CA-related FUD.

[C&Rtrader]

he is correct and he is probably referring to the CFCL program:

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcoverview

if you are an 03 FFL direct his attention to the very first line in the above link which says 03 FFLs dont need a CFCL number. He can ship it directly to you.

Once upon a time there was an actual DOJ memo stating that 03 FFL holders are exempt, but they took that down because it made things to easy. Actually, anyone have a copy of that? I wouldn't mind having it.

[panzerman]

A thousand thank you's

[panzerman]

It is interesting to note that these guys in NH called 916-227-7527 and actually spoke to a real person who told them it did not matter what license anyone in CA had that all needed a CFLC number. I tried that number and got a recording. These guys in NH seem like decent folks just scared of CA sales. They were happy to get the link you gave me and the rifle is on its way as we speak. Thanks much.

[emcon5]

It is interesting to note that these guys in NH called 916-227-7527 and actually spoke to a real person who told them it did not matter what license anyone in CA had that all needed a CFLC number.

Just goes to show that your average DOJ Staff member is an uninformed moron.

[littlejake]

It is interesting to note that these guys in NH called 916-227-7527 and actually spoke to a real person who told them it did not matter what license anyone in CA had that all needed a CFLC number. I tried that number and got a recording. These guys in NH seem like decent folks just scared of CA sales. They were happy to get the link you gave me and the rifle is on its way as we speak. Thanks much.

Getting a job with the state is very difficult. One must have an IQ below 50 to qualify. The standards are slightly lower for DOJ and DMV.

[C&Rtrader]

A thousand thank you's

No worries. That is what we do here. I have dealt with that exact issue once or twice myself.

btw.. again if anyone saved a copy of that DOJ memo please PM me or post a copy here.

the old link no longer works

http://caag.state.ca.us/firearms/infobuls/2008-BOF-05.pdf

[Mustang]

I just bought a 1905 Winchester on GB from an FFl 01 in New Hampshire who tells me that the law in CA requires me to provide them with a 5 digit code in order to allow them to ship the firearm to me???? Prior to bidding I had asked if he accepted C&R on this rifle and he replied yes. What code is he talking about? I did not think we needed a COE until Jan 01, 2014.

In addition to the above advice, show him this link...

http://oag.ca.gov/firearms/cflcfaqs#4...

question #4 in the FAQ's asks if any California FFL's are exempt from the new law and answer is "Yes. The CFLC program does not apply to FFLs with Type 03 (curio and relic collectors) and Type 06 (ammunition dealers) licenses.")

[C&Rtrader]

I thought #4 was written strangely. The actual text reads: "Yes. The CFLC program does not apply to shipments made by Type 03 (curio and relic collectors) and Type 06 (ammunition dealers) FFLs. "

notice is says shipments "made by," not shipment "made to." I think they are referring to outgoing parcels from CA based 03 and 06s?

[Mustang]

Here is the original information bulletin from 2008...

And here is the link. It is bulletin 2008-05

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls

[C&Rtrader]

Here is the original information bulletin from 2008...

And here is the link. It is bulletin 2008-05

https://oag.ca.gov/firearms/infobuls

thank you! the original wording in #4 makes it SO much more clear. Just saved that to my hard drive for future use. Thanks again