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  • kris smith
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 2058

    Black powder pistol question

    So a co worker is selling me this pistol it's an uberti I don't know what model it is I've looked around but have found several like it as in 1860 army 1861 navy and a few others what model is it so I can find the year it was produced any help is appreciated thanks




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  • #2
    Rebel
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 125

    It looks like a mishmash of various Colts. I would send the serial number and some pictures to Uberti and ask them about it. Are you sure it's an Uberti or are you going off of your coworkers say-so? If you don't mind me asking, what is his asking price?

    Things I notice:
    - Steel trigger guard
    - Fluted cylinder style
    - Missing front sight
    Last edited by Rebel; 10-17-2013, 11:12 AM.
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    • #3
      kris smith
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2011
      • 2058

      He want 100 it says uberti on it all serials match
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      • #4
        TRAP55
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5536

        Italian made firearms have a date code, Roman numerals, then changed to a two letters in a box code.

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        • #5
          kris smith
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2011
          • 2058

          As per the chart it's made in 84 but now to as what model it looks like the 1861 navy but it's a five sbit
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          • #6
            gun toting monkeyboy
            Calguns Addict
            • Aug 2008
            • 6820

            It looks like a .31 or .36 version of an 1860 Army. I can't tell for sure. Though with the 5 shot cylinder, I would lean more towards .31. It could be one of their reproductions of a pocket pistol. There were several versions of those out a few years ago. That would explain the lack of a front sight, or dovetail for one. That is a fair price. If you don't want it, tell your friend I'll take it.

            -Mb

            (edit) I think Tom pretty much nailed it.
            Last edited by gun toting monkeyboy; 10-17-2013, 2:58 PM.
            Originally posted by aplinker
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            • #7
              ChrisC
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2013
              • 2469

              Model 1861 Navy 7-1/2" barrel would be my guess

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              • #8
                Flintlock Tom
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 3353

                Looks like the Uberti 1862 Police (http://www.uberti.com/firearms/new-a...and-police.php) but, the one in their catalog has a brass trigger-guard and back-strap.
                If it's not corroded inside, $100 is a really good price.

                And, please do us a favor, if you don't want it, tell your friend to read this thread and contact one of us (ME) for an offer.
                Last edited by Flintlock Tom; 10-17-2013, 2:53 PM.
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                • #9
                  Flintlock Tom
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3353

                  It's not a "Navy." The Navies all have octagon barrels.
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                  • #10
                    Tom-ADC
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 3614

                    .36 cal 5 shot its a 1862 Police. and at a $100 a great buy, want to make a fast $50?
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                    • #11
                      kris smith
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 2058

                      Nope it's mine I've been looking for a black powder for a while my exs mom had one but was convinced it was a colt and want 1500 (tweaker) I proved to her it wasn't it was a 65 uberti and worth not much more than 200 that a guy offered her
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                      • #12
                        kris smith
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 2058

                        So what is needed for me to get this thing up and running. It looks clean and not corroded he had a smith in az tell him it's safe to shoot. I figure it would need a good cleaning I'd need caps balls powder and some sort of wax or sealing stuff to prevent chain fire
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                        • #13
                          gun toting monkeyboy
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2008
                          • 6820

                          The chainfire danger is over-rated. If your chamber is shaving off a tiny ring of lead when you load the ball, you are unlikely to get any flashing over to ignite the powder from the front. Besides, the most likely place for the flame to reach the surrounding cylinders is at the back, not the front. That said, a syringe full of crisco works wonders. Melt the crisco in the microwave, then suck it up with the syringe. Once it cools down, you have a syringe full of lube that you can squirt on top of the balls to seal/lube them. If you live someplace that room-temperature crisco is too hard to use in a syringe by itself, add a bit of olive oil to it when you melt it, to make it softer. If you live someplace where it drips out at room temperature, add a bit of bee's wax to stiffen it up. You can also get lubed patches that fit under the balls. These look like little yellow circles of felt that are the same diameter as the ball. The ball sits on top of them in the chamber, and the powder is protected from anything getting to it from that direction. If you get the urge to cast your own lead balls of conical bullets, remember to use pure lead, not a mix. Your balls and bullets have to be soft enough for the powder to deform when it ignites, thus sealing the bore. Otherwise you get hot gases blowing by the overly-hard bullets as they go down the barrel, and your accuracy sucks.

                          -Mb
                          Last edited by gun toting monkeyboy; 10-17-2013, 5:01 PM.
                          Originally posted by aplinker
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                          • #14
                            Dutch3
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 14181

                            Clean with hot water or diluted Simple Green, lube with Crisco, lard, bacon grease, etc.

                            Keep the Hoppe's and Rem Oil away from it. Shooting black powder is sort of like making breakfast.
                            Just taking up space in (what is no longer) the second-worst small town in California.

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                            • #15
                              David13
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 901

                              When you get your balls, and caps, and powder, get some 'Wonder Wads'. Felt, 100 in a pack, and use a pencil to push them over your powder. Then press your ball. Get the size that shaves a small ring of lead off, for a tight seal. But don't get too big, or you will break your lever.
                              dc

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