c&r pricing

[pschorrXD]

Hello fellas,

I was wondering what some prices would be decent on these firearms:
(Example enfield: $250-300)

Lee Enfield:
M1 Garand:
Mauser:
M1 Carbine:
Mosin Nagant:
1903a3:
Others?

I know it is not too specifice but I'm not looking for example a 98k or a vz24 just a run of the mill gun in that catergory.

Thanks in advance

[0351USMC]

price depend on rarity and condition.

[knucklehead0202]

well as a general rule, a 91/30 will run between 100 and 300 bucks, carbines like m38, m44, 91/59etc, pull a bit more. finns or ex-snipers a little higher. enfields, depends on the variant, but anywhere from 150-5-600. mausers, vz-24 or Yugo 24/47 or m48s from 2-500, REAL k98k's, 250-sky's the limit. m1 garands, 600 and up, 'bout the same for carbines, 03 or 03a3, 4-500 and up. all depends on condition, variants etc but that should give you a starting point. start cheap with a mosin, m95steyr, and work your way up i'd say. not sure what kinda budget you're dealing with or what you want in a gun so I suppose it's up to you.

[Milsurp Collector]

Hello fellas,

I was wondering what some prices would be decent on these firearms:
(Example enfield: $250-300)

Lee Enfield: $200-300
M1 Garand: CMP $625 gun show $700-900
Mauser: $269 http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...m_id=100000268
M1 Carbine: $700-800
Mosin Nagant: $149 http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns?caliber=73
1903a3: $700-800

[emcon5]

Lee Enfield: $200-300
M1 Garand: CMP $625 gun show $700-900
Mauser: $269 http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...m_id=100000268
M1 Carbine: $700-800
Mosin Nagant: $149 http://www.classicfirearms.com/long-guns?caliber=73
1903a3: $700-800

Generally agree, except Mauser and Mosin Nagant.

Mauser can be anywhere from ~$150 to $15,000.
Mosin Nagant, ~$150 to $2000 or more.

Way too many variations of both make such a general statement.

[Milsurp Collector]

Generally agree, except Mauser and Mosin Nagant.

Mauser can be anywhere from ~$150 to $15,000.
Mosin Nagant, ~$150 to $2000 or more.

He asked for "decent" prices, not the whole range.

[emcon5]

He asked for "decent" prices, not the whole range.

Well, if you can find a SS Double claw, all matching with capture papers $10,000 is a decent price.

[glennsche]

All y’all are forgetting the finest C&Rs out there: SWISS GOODNESS.

You can get almost any system that shoots the 7.5x55 Swiss round for under 400$: k31s, k11s, g11s are all… roughly … the same price range I’d say.

[SVT-40]

No one can give you a reasonable answer without looking at the particular rifle...

Thats because value or price is ALWAYS based on condition, rarity and originality.

Condition can include such things as having all matching parts as well as wear and bore condition.

Rarity also plays a major role in value. So a scarce variant of a common rifle could fetch a significantly higher price than it's common cousin even if it's condition was not as good.....

Originality also comes into play especially where rifles did not have individually numbered parts. An example would be US made rifles. Only the receiver will have a serial number. The remainder of the parts usually will have markings or characteristics which show who manufactured the part. So having a rifle with all parts made by the original maker would increase the value, as compared to a rifle which had it's parts from different manufacturers...

So there is no reasonable answer to your question without actually looking at detailed photos of the individual rifle...

[DennisCA]

I agree with the previous postings - however it's all going to depend on YOUR budget and what you are willing to pay for it.. Also with Mosin's and Mausers, it's all going to depend on the type your looking for. For example; a plain-jane MN 91-30 is going to be one price and a ex-sniper is going to be another. Same with the Mausers, there are many types of Mausers out there, besides the K98's. The Yugo 24/47 & M48's are fine examples of Mausers, that will cost a lot less than a K98 would.
I think you might narrow your types deisred down a bit (IMHO) - just a suggestion.

[pschorrXD]

No one can give you a reasonable answer without looking at the particular rifle...

Thats because value or price is ALWAYS based on condition, rarity and originality.

Condition can include such things as having all matching parts as well as wear and bore condition.

Rarity also plays a major role in value. So a scarce variant of a common rifle could fetch a significantly higher price than it's common cousin even if it's condition was not as good.....

Originality also comes into play especially where rifles did not have individually numbered parts. An example would be US made rifles. Only the receiver will have a serial number. The remainder of the parts usually will have markings or characteristics which show who manufactured the part. So having a rifle with all parts made by the original maker would increase the value, as compared to a rifle which had it's parts from different manufacturers...

So there is no reasonable answer to your question without actually looking at detailed photos of the individual rifle...

I really am looking for a decent shooter to about 300m and thats it for the most part because where I go in the desert thats about as far it is for my "range". I understand there are alot of variations of each rifle that would increase or decrease the price of the rifle also condition plays a huge factor. What Milsurp gave me was roughly what I was looking for a general ball park for what you would find "walking into a gun shop".

[Armistice]

Lee Enfield: Not sure, but around 2-400?
M1 Garand: 800-1200+
Mauser: 4-600
M1 Carbine: Not sure, but I'd guess similar to a Garand
Mosin Nagant: 135 on Classic. Elsewhere can be 150-250+ (honestly, I don't think you should pay more than 200OTD[that's just my opinion]
1903: 800-1200. The A3 prob more
Others? SVT40- 1K+
SKS- 3-500

Those seem to be the run of the mill prices. Obviously, rares can fetch more, and thrashed ones will be less, but those seem to be averages prices for the most part. If you get lucky, you can grab one for less... or sell one for more, lol

[emcon5]

What Milsurp gave me was roughly what I was looking for a general ball park for what you would find "walking into a gun shop".

I would say for "Walking into a gunshop" his prices are low. The two he linked are essentially wholesale prices, and the others are, in my opinion, a fair private party price. For retail gun shop prices add 25%.

Pricing on Mosins is relatively easy, as the vast majority of what you will find for sale are Soviet reworked 91/30s. A run of the mill Mosin 91/30 should be in the $150-175 range retail. If you find one on sale, as low as $125 or so.

Soviet Mosin Carbines M38/M44 are north of $200, but Chinese T53s are less.

Mausers are a lot harder. Not that many options in the pipeline, most of what you will find are Yugo M24/47 or M48, which are usually good shooters, and will probably be in the $300 neighborhood.

Russian capture German K98s are going for $450+, when you see them. Originals, with mostly matching parts are going for much higher (bolt-mismatches $700+), complete matching rifles higher still (depending on condition, $thousands). Mitchell's are garbage, Google it for details.

When you can find them, Swede M96 are in the $3-400 range, and M38s $350+.

VZ24s, Turks, Persians,and various South American Mausers can range from $250 and up, primarily based on condition.

Keep in mind that for all practical purposes, surplus ammo for C&Rs other than 7.62X54R (or 7.62x39 for the SKS) is gone. Some may show up again (like the 7.5 Swiss that recently reappeared), but I wouldn't count on it. Yeah, there is some Persian 8mm out and about, but it is crap, and the Yugo Sniper ammo is good, but for about the same price, Privi is non-corrosive and reloadable.

The short answer is keep and eye on the trader here, and do your research.

[Armistice]

Yah, I have trouble finding 8mm surplus and my Mauser is my fav to shoot. So I only shoot a little per range trip to extend my spam can's life while I hunt for more

[Milsurp Collector]

I would say for "Walking into a gunshop" his prices are low. The two he linked are essentially wholesale prices, and the others are, in my opinion, a fair private party price. For retail gun shop prices add 25%.

True, those prices are based on prices I see at gun shows, local ads, and gun stores in Oregon, in Internet gun forum For Sale sections, and on Gunbroker.com. Retail prices in California are probably higher. Of course, I will also see higher prices at times in Oregon and on the Internet, but the prices I listed are "decent" prices that I see.