M96 feeding problems!

[ducky_0811]

hey guys, I just got my first M96 Swede. After lovingly removing all of her cosmo and admiring all her lines and curves, I loaded up some rounds for this weekend using PPU brass, and Hornady 140gr SST's loaded to manual recommended length of 2.905"

While checking to make sure my rounds would chamber ok I discovered that they dont seem to like being fed from the magazine. when stripping the round out of the magazine, the rim of the case binds on the face of the bolt, preventing the round from aligning to the chamber, creating the issue. If not fed from the magazine, they chamber and eject without problem.

I tried my google-fu on this and turned up only a few related discussions on mausers of all types seeming to have this issue, but no solutions.

Has anyone encountered this with their swede, or other mauser that has found a solution? Any input on fixing this is MUCH appreciated!

[major burnout]

Im not sure. I bet a dremmel will fix it.

[Rustybore]

Check the extractor for burrs, deformities, etc
There could also be an issue with the follower spring.

Rb.

[pro-nra]

In addition the what Rustybore mentioned regarding extractor and follower spring issues, I would also check the follower itself. Make sure that the cases are pushed against the back of the magazine and not pushed forward.

When the bolt strips off a round from the magazine, the rim of the case will slide into the space between the extractor and bolt face on its way to battery.

Some extractors will not ride over the rim of the case if you manually feed a round into the chamber but will work fine from the magazine. A little metal removal from the front of the extractor to change the angle usually fix this.

Since your location is top secret, I could not help you out in person. I have spare parts including extractors and bolts that I could help you diagnose your issues but not knowing where you are, I can't help you.

[Flyin Brian]

I've noticed a lot of irregularity with the rims on Swede cases... not so much with the PPU you are using but the Remington cases I have tried are almost impossible to get into a shell holder. I wonder if it would make any difference to try some Norma or Lapua? That's all I use anymore

Err... I do have some Nosler too, and that is nice brass as well.

[TRAP55]

It's a common problem with controlled feed Mausers, and compounded using Privi brass. The bottom edge of the extractor needs a bevel stoned on it to fix the feeding issue. The claw of the extractor needs to be stoned to match the groove and angle, of the extractor groove on the Privi brass.
Remove the bolt and separate the shroud/firing pin assembly. Take a round and slide it under the extractor into position on the bolt face. It should slide in with very little resistance, and hold a loaded cartridge firmly.
Unless you have a box full of spare extractors, don't be lazy and try to use a Dremel. Use a fine grit stone, or a piece of 240 grit wet or dry sandpaper wrapped around a wood dowel. Go slow, sand, try, and repeat if needed. It's easier to remove metal from an extractor than it is to replace it.

[ducky_0811]

PRO-NRA, you kill me sometimes, lol. Im down in socal, I've bought 4 pounds of powder off you. I will check all these things you guys mentioned and get back to you, I would REALLY hate to have to take a dremel to the backside of the extractor, even if I'm the only one who will ever know.

[TRAP55]

PRO-NRA, you kill me sometimes, lol. Im down in socal, I've bought 4 pounds of powder off you. I will check all these things you guys mentioned and get back to you, I would REALLY hate to have to take a dremel to the backside of the extractor, even if I'm the only one who will ever know.

The only spot on the backside of the hook you want to mess with is that bottom edge where the rim first contacts, and no more than 2-3mm of it.
For all the ammo companies that load the Swede ammo, seems none get the SAMMI case specs right, on rim thickness and groove angle. "Tuning" your extractor to the brass you use, will extend the life of both.

[ducky_0811]

trap thats some good information, thanks for the diagram! I just finished doing some trial and error testing with an unprimed dummy. the clearance between the rim and the extractor hook is fine. It does appear that there is a tad too much spring tension (probably caused by out of spec brass). and it also appears that by removing a hair of material, as suggested by you fine folks, would do the trick. I'll hit it with some wet 400 grit tomorrow and get back to you all.

Thanks for all the wisdom!

[pro-nra]

ducky_0811, sorry I could not remember user name. PM me your address and I'll mail you a good extractor, a Norma and Lapua full sized dummy round for your to try in your rifle. I bet they will work.

[ducky_0811]

ducky_0811, sorry I could not remember user name. PM me your address and I'll mail you a good extractor, a Norma and Lapua full sized dummy round for your to try in your rifle. I bet they will work.

PM sent!

[Danodog]

hey guys, I just got my first M96 Swede. After lovingly removing all of her cosmo and admiring all her lines and curves, I loaded up some rounds for this weekend using PPU brass, and Hornady 140gr SST's loaded to manual recommended length of 2.905"

While checking to make sure my rounds would chamber ok I discovered that they dont seem to like being fed from the magazine. when stripping the round out of the magazine, the rim of the case binds on the face of the bolt, preventing the round from aligning to the chamber, creating the issue. If not fed from the magazine, they chamber and eject without problem.

I tried my google-fu on this and turned up only a few related discussions on mausers of all types seeming to have this issue, but no solutions.

Has anyone encountered this with their swede, or other mauser that has found a solution? Any input on fixing this is MUCH appreciated!

You lucky dog. Where did you find a Swede packed in cosmo? that is a legendary find. Do tell more!

[Edvil91]

I kind of had a feeding issue with mine as well, carbine version though. Basically, when you load the cartridges, make sure you insert the round all the way back were the bolt stops, just a little forward and feeding issues start.

[v/dBrink]

Extractor go/no-go gauge for the Swedish Mauser. Measurement should be 1.8mm to 1.9mm. The 2.00mm is excessive. Bottom gauge is firing pin protrusion.

[ducky_0811]

To danodog, found it on GB, I didn't think it was a Cosmo rifle but it sure was, my friend bought one off GB And his was also in Cosmo.
Mine is '13 Carl Gustafson, all matching except for cleaning rod, it was good find indeed, just need to be patient