C&R "cash and carry" selling question....

[bigbossman]

Say I have a .22 rifle that is >50 years old, and I want to sell it FTF. That's a "cash and carry" transaction. I know if I want to sell it across state lines, the recipient needs a C&R FFL to receive it.

Now - what if I have a buyer in the same state, but far enough away that I have to ship..... is that still legal, or does he buyer need a C&R to receive it?

[0351USMC]

is it Pistol or Rifle?

[bigbossman]

is it Pistol or Rifle?

Oooohh.... good question. Rifle. Edited OP to reflect that important tidbit.

C&R Mossberg rifle, made in the 1940's, no serial. I'm in Norcal, potential buyer is in Socal. I received it from out of state in a trade a while back, and booked it in at that time.

[Capybara]

Technically legal IF you can verify that the person is at least 18, non-prohibited but how do you know if the person "buying" it from you is the person it is being sent to? In my mind, I wouldn't do it, F2F or through an FFL01 who will accept it. At least F2F, you can verify if the person is of legal age and if they look shifty, I would bail on the sale. I don't want to be arming the wrong people. But in reality, you just can't tell.

[0351USMC]

Say I have a .22 rifle that is >50 years old, and I want to sell it FTF. That's a "cash and carry" transaction. I know if I want to sell it across state lines, the recipient needs a C&R FFL to receive it.

Now - what if I have a buyer in the same state, but far enough away that I have to ship..... is that still legal, or does he buyer need a C&R to receive it?

legal,if buyer have C&R license,if not you ship to his FFL.

[bigbossman]

legal,if buyer have C&R license,if not you ship to his FFL.

He does NOT have a C&R, that's the rub.

[knucklehead0202]

let's face it, how many felons are running around buying 70 year-old rifles?

[Enfield47]

let's face it, how many felons are running around buying 70 year-old rifles?

True, and since it's a .22 I would be less concerned. What about using something like Skype so you can see and speak to the buyer. That way when he sends you a copy of his ID you will know if its a match or not.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

100% legal to ship it if the buyer really is 18+ years old and a California resident and you don't have reason to believe he is prohibited. But as has been mentioned, it's hard to verify who the buyer really is when you ship.

[Eat Dirt]

When ever I buy a rifle with my C + R
and it has to be shipped
I include a copy on my D.L. with the copy of the C + R lic

and in bold letters put " Copy " on both

[Armistice]

Just have the person attach their DL and a written statement that they can own a firearm and you should be good. Just like a normal FTF withought the FTF part, lol

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Just have the person attach their DL and a written statement that they can own a firearm and you should be good. Just like a normal FTF withought the FTF part, lol

If it's really a copy of their drivers license then you're good to go. If it's a Photoshop'd copy of a fake ID sent by a 17 year old then you are totally f***ed.

[Capybara]

I wouldn't do it. Why take the risk? Can't you sell it F2F to someone locally?

[DennisCA]

I wouldn't do it. Why take the risk? Can't you sell it F2F to someone locally?

Agreed - wouldn't take the chance, try and find a buyer locally.
I know easier said than done....)

[bigbossman]

I wouldn't do it. Why take the risk? Can't you sell it F2F to someone locally?

Agreed - wouldn't take the chance, try and find a buyer locally.
I know easier said than done....)

Good advice, thanks.

I'll either sell it FTF locally at the next few matches, or else insist on a C&R if the buyer is out of town.