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  • Wojtek
    Vendor/Retailer
    • Oct 2012
    • 1472

    Identify this Garand (crosspost)

    I am crossposting this from General Gun Discussion for a more focused audience. Got a weird Garand and would love to see if anyone has an idea on what it is.

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  • #2
    pro-nra
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2270

    Ouch that hurt just looking at it. Definitely not a PB BM59. Looks like the Bubbaed rifle made in someone's basement. The stock is a post war not a WWII as evidenced by the presence of a DAS stamp.

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    • #3
      Paltik
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2011
      • 746

      All the people I've seen doing tanker conversions keep the gas system looking either Garand or BM59-like; you're right, that gas system does look a bit like the T44E2. I'm gonna go with Bubba on this one as well.

      How does it shoot?

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      • #4
        QuarterBoreGunner
        Administrator
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 9389

        That's really weird.. that front sight looks like it came of of an FAL.
        /Chris

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        You do know there are more guns in the country than there are in the city.
        Everyone and their mums is packin' round here!
        Like who?
        Farmers.
        Who else?
        Farmers' mums.

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        • #5
          Wojtek
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Oct 2012
          • 1472

          I don't think this is a bubba job, it's way too nice.

          That stock is period correct from what I can see. It has all the right stamps for that particular run of Springfield rifles.

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          • #6
            Sailormilan2
            Veteran Member
            • Nov 2006
            • 3453

            If it takes an M14 style magazine, have you checked the receiver to see if it has been welded? Some people would take demilled M14 front halves and weld them to demilled Garand rear halves and build from there.

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            • #7
              Orlando
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1827

              Originally posted by Sailormilan2
              If it takes an M14 style magazine, have you checked the receiver to see if it has been welded? Some people would take demilled M14 front halves and weld them to demilled Garand rear halves and build from there.
              Hes been told on the other thread he started but wont accept it.
              He wants somone to tell him he has a rare varient Garand

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              • #8
                Wojtek
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Oct 2012
                • 1472

                Originally posted by Sailormilan2
                If it takes an M14 style magazine, have you checked the receiver to see if it has been welded? Some people would take demilled M14 front halves and weld them to demilled Garand rear halves and build from there.
                This receiver has not been welded that I know of.

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                • #9
                  Wojtek
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 1472

                  Originally posted by Orlando
                  Hes been told on the other thread he started but wont accept it.
                  He wants somone to tell him he has a rare varient Garand
                  I would personally LOVE if it were actually a rare one. However, I highly doubt it is a hack/bubba job. This rifle, whatever it is, had a lot of thought and work put into it and it sure as hell wasn't from bubba.

                  Also, I don't have to accept crap until I have exhausted all research avenues. Regardless of outcome though, I am going to be keeping it.

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                  • #10
                    sealocan
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2012
                    • 9950

                    Congratulations Wojtek, It is a rare item, even if it was just made by some professional gunsmith / engineer in his gunsmith shop ,but I'm not sure that was the case
                    I wouldn't sell it either.someone definitely sat down ,thought it out and the machined metal work looks well done

                    it looks unique to me.
                    my two questions to you are approximately how much did you pay.(if you want to say. no pressure though. )and did it come with a story or any information when you got it?
                    I hope its worth a million, you deserve it you've given a lot of people great deals here on Calguns, but I still wouldn't sell it if I were you. it's nice to have a one-of-a-kind item
                    Last edited by sealocan; 08-01-2013, 9:52 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Wojtek
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 1472

                      Originally posted by sealocan
                      Congratulations Wojtek, It is a rare item, even if it was just made by some professional gunsmith / engineer even if it was just in his gunsmith shop ,but I'm not sure that was the case
                      I wouldn't sell it either.someone definitely sat down ,thought it out and the machined metal work looks well done

                      it looks unique to me.
                      my two questions to you are approximately how much did you pay.(if you want to say.)and did it come with a story or any information when you got it?
                      I hope its worth a million but I still wouldn't sell it without you.
                      I paid far under market value, that's for sure. I got it as part of a package. Unfortunately, I'd rather not discuss figures openly.

                      No information on the rifle other than what a friend told me when he called, which was "it's a .308 Garand, probably used for the Navy or something. It came from a collection from a guy that died recently and his widow wants this stuff sold off at this price $$$$."

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                      • #12
                        sealocan
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 9950

                        From the photos it just looks very professional and I know the Navy sometimes does some experiments with different weapons. Also I Edited my post to let it be known that you've helped out many Calguners with some amazing deals.
                        That's great that you got it at a reasonable price again I hope it's a one of a kind winner for you.( I think it already is.)

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                        • #13
                          TRICKSTER
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 12438

                          Originally posted by Wojtek
                          I don't think this is a bubba job, it's way too nice.

                          That stock is period correct from what I can see. It has all the right stamps for that particular run of Springfield rifles.

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                          There are some Bubbas out there that do good work. At this point, you don't even know if it cycles.

                          Stamps may be correct for the era, but that doesn't mean that they are authentic. They look a little off. What are the barrel markings under the oprod.


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                          • #14
                            Wojtek
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 1472

                            Originally posted by TRICKSTER
                            There are some Bubbas out there that do good work. At this point, you don't even know if it cycles.

                            Stamps may be correct for the era, but that doesn't mean that they are authentic. They look a little off. What are the barrel markings under the oprod.
                            No markings that I can see.

                            You are right, I don't know if it cycles.

                            In my eyes, the term "bubba" tends to mean someone that butchers up a rifle.

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                            • #15
                              TRICKSTER
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 12438

                              If there are no markings on the barrel, it is most likely not military but commercial. Also a Navy barrel would be in 7.62 not 308. There is a difference.


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