Remington Model 8/81

[Castle50]

NRA has Gun of the Day featuring the 8/81. Did Kalashnikov use this as a basis for the AK? They sure seem similar or is it just a passing resemblance?

[TRAP55]

I know this will twist some noses, but I'll say it anyhow and stand by it.
The only original idea Kalashnikov had, if it counts as one, is using several other peoples original ideas, and assembling them.

[Emdawg]

I believe that he combined several successful ideas into making his AK.

I think the safety is the most obvious rip-off from Browning's Model 8.

[Mike A]

I've had both and while the safety LOOKS similar externally, it isn't and the rest of the Remington isn't either.

Agreed that the AK used concepts (and expired patents) from other designers. But none from Browning's Remington autoloaders. There's nothing about a Model 8 or 81 or 11 that lends itself to mass military scale production. They are extravagantly well-machined and finished, and were replaced by the 760/740/11-48/870 series of firearms because of the need for cheaper mass production.

[fal_762x51]

Funny. I just bought a Model 81 in .300 Savage for $225 today.

[Emdawg]

Funny. I just bought a Model 81 in .300 Savage for $225 today.

What shape was it in?

[fal_762x51]

I would say very good except that it had holes for a Weaver #4 side mount. Might scope it, don't know yet.

[Mike A]

If you scope it, make sure you use ALL four of those screws to mount the scope. .300 Sav 81s really "back right up in a hurry" when fired! That was the most powerful cartridge that Remington chambered in their recoil-operated hunting rifles because of the recoil.

(You got a steal on that gun if you like it!).

[smle-man]

I had an 81 in .300 Savage that was the most unpleasant shooting rifle I ever owned. Hope you like yours better. I sold it because of the recoil.

[surplus-addict]

...it doesn't remind me of the AK (besides the safety) but it sure reminds me of the SKS!

[The Gleam]

I know this will twist some noses, but I'll say it anyhow and stand by it. The only original idea Kalashnikov had, if it counts as one, is using several other peoples original ideas, and assembling them.

He readily admits this himself.

[fal_762x51]

The cellphone picture. Going to break it down tonight and see if I need any replacement parts.

[Emdawg]

Looks nice. I hear that .300 has some recoil though.

[fal_762x51]

Bunch of wusses.

I will let you know how factory loads compared to my reloads do.

[Mustang]

I've got an 81 in .30 Remington . It has a Redfield aperture rear sight and is a great shooter.







PCI factory ammo @ 100 yards.