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  • Gutpile66
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    • Mar 2013
    • 434

    Please help I.D. this barrel

    My late Grandpa (Bubba?) built this rifle in the late '60's. Remington Enfield 25-06 with all the markings. He built lots of these in his "office" in Grants Pass, OR. Mousers, Springfields, and Enfields . . . 25-06, 30-06, and 35 Whelen (some Ackley Improved chambers too). Poor with 3 boys they hunted year-round for food.

    I'd like to know what kind of barrel this is, if possible. It's stamped on top of the chamber "25-06". It's stamped the same way under the chamber, right up against the tennon "??/??/62 FN". I don't remember the month and the day. It's a heavy, tapered, varmint type barrel. 1/10 twist. Grandpa told me it started out at 26" but he didn't like the way it shot. So he started cutting it back, re-crowning and re-working up loads 'till he settled at 25-1/8". Barrel spits 100 grain laser-guided heat-seeking mini-missiles. Still load to his specs.

    I've either taken or seen taken a few elk, multiple black bear, too many mule deer to count, and it's wreaked havoc on varmints, all with this rifle.

    While I'm here; the "E" stamped on lots of the parts, is it E=Enfield? Is it that simple?

    Thanks in advance, oh smokeless gurus. Keep your line wet and your powder dry.

    And why are the Eddystones valued higher when there were so many more made than the Wins and the Rems?
    Last edited by Gutpile66; 06-18-2013, 2:35 PM.
  • #2
    Mustang
    Calguns Addict
    • Aug 2007
    • 5075

    Nice looking 1917, Gutpile

    Can't help you with the barrel, but the "E" stands for Eddystone. It has been my experience that the Eddystones have a lesser value than the Remington and Winchesters.
    ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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    • #3
      Emdawg
      Veteran Member
      • Jan 2012
      • 4292

      I notice a couple of things.

      First off, if the barrel has "FN" on it that might mean that it was made by Fabrique National, the Belgian gun factory.

      Next that reciever is definitely a Remington, but there is a mixture of Eddystone parts. That is the "E" stamp on all the parts. Remington was R and Winchester was W.


      After WWI and WWII many of those Model 1917 rifles were sold to the CMP and dispersed among the populace by the military as they were no longer needed. The were cheap rifles and often, like the Krags, converted to cheap deer rifles.

      The M1917 has a very strong action and many people converted them to different and often more powerful calibers as the reciever and bolt could handle the higher power.

      Your grandpa probably picked up a barrel from a seller and either he or a gunsmith replaced the old standard issue 30-06 barrel.


      And Winchesters tend to be the more valuable maker of the rifles, at least to my knowledge. Classic Winchesters tend to fetch more money, regardless of gun model. I have one myself.
      *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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      • #4
        TRAP55
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5536

        I don't think FN marked their barrels with a date like that, more likely it being a heavy profile and done in the 60's, it was a Douglas barrel. The date and the "FN" is probably the initials of the gunsmith that turned it and installed it, and the date he did it.

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        • #5
          Emdawg
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 4292

          Originally posted by TRAP55
          I don't think FN marked their barrels with a date like that, more likely it being a heavy profile and done in the 60's, it was a Douglas barrel. The date and the "FN" is probably the initials of the gunsmith that turned it and installed it, and the date he did it.
          I think you would know more about that than me.
          *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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          • #6
            TRAP55
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2008
            • 5536

            Originally posted by Emdawg
            I think you would know more about that than me.
            Emdawg, that's my best WAG.
            I remember guys like gutpile's grampa when I was a kid, with piles of surplus rifles stacked in barrels waiting to made into someones meat getter. Numrich had Douglas barrels for prices less than what they would bring as scrap today, and Herters had inletted AAA fancy stocks for less than a $100. If I only knew then what I know now!
            Last edited by TRAP55; 05-29-2013, 10:54 PM.

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            • #7
              Gutpile66
              Member
              • Mar 2013
              • 434

              This is great, thanks fellas. Now I know why there are a couple W's on the parts too. And no kidding I remember he had a barrel in the shed stuffed full of rifle parts. Douglas barrel makes sense, I remember him talking about them.

              I see Timney makes triggers for Enfields. I don't know why, the trigger on this Remington is super light (breaks like a glass rod, no over-travel). Rifle goes off and it's a pleasant surprise.

              'Bout 20 years ago Grandpa gave me the old Springfield/Savage (no serial #) bolt action .22 that I shot in his back yard when I was a kid. Then Grandma saw it in my house years later and she almost killed Grandpa for giving it too me (smile). I still have it.

              EDawg, Grandad had eyebrows like those . . .

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              • #8
                Emdawg
                Veteran Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 4292

                That rifle must be a nice shooter. I have a Remington Model 700 in 25-06 and that thing is the best varmit gun.
                *sniff* *sniff* Commies...

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                • #9
                  Simply115
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 2265

                  That looks like a fantastic rifle.


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                  • #10
                    Castle50
                    Member
                    • Mar 2013
                    • 428

                    Great looking gun. Enjoy it.

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                    • #11
                      Gutpile66
                      Member
                      • Mar 2013
                      • 434

                      Thanks. I've owned bench-grade 28" barreled 16 lb. custom chambered target rifles and this thing will run with any of them. When I was a little kid I was convinced that all you had to do was point it in the direction of a deer, close your eyes, pull the trigger, and the deer would fall over. Big steaming gutpile.

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                      • #12
                        Fjold
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 23054

                        That's not Bubbed, that's custom built.
                        Frank

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                        • #13
                          Old Scribe
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                          • 587

                          Nice rifle. I have a "few" of my grand dad's rifles and some memories to go along with them.
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