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  • haodoken
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 516

    Czech Vz52/57

    Does anyone have one of these? How to they compare to the SKS. Seems to me they are very similar to SKS and have been rechambered for 7.62x39 (a plus ammo wise). Not listed on AW list, doesn't have a PG, and its a C&R. What am I like to pay for this rifle? Opinions?
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    scootergmc
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2006
    • 4089

    The VZ52 was an original czech weapon designed for the 7.62x45. The story goes the Soviets required the caliber conversion to 7.62x39. Some VZ52s were rechambered into 7.62x39. In 1957, the rifles were switched to 7.62x39, and renamed the VZ52/57. The were replaced by the VZ58.

    Actual 52/57s (not rechambered VZ52s) usually sell for over $500 and parts are hard to come by and expensive for a C&R. There was one on gunbroker a while back that made it to $700 but didn't meet reserve. VZ52s are a lot cheaper.

    With that said, yes I have one. They are *for the most part* more accurate and reliable than an SKS. They eject brass to the left. Garand type trigger group. Good luck finding one. If you are fortunate enough to find actual 7.62x39 mags, be prepared to pay $50 each.

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    • #3
      Sampachi
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2007
      • 812

      I have a Vz52, but have yet to shoot it due to lack of ammo. I bought a set of custom made Lee dies for reloading, but they are still being made.

      There is a Vz52 at City Arms and has been there forever, but has a "Not for sale" tag on it. Not sure why it's on display. There used to be an adapter for converting a 52 to 52/57 but everyone that I've heard from says that it's unreliable and eventually gets extracted with a random case. If you find a Vz52 with an awful black bedliner covered stock, you can replace it with a M14 wooden stock and a little bit of woodwork. Spare 52 mags are sold by some surplus company in Modesto, but can't recall the name off hand. They might have other spare parts too.

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      • #4
        CALI-gula
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2006
        • 6992

        Originally posted by Sampachi
        I have a Vz52, but have yet to shoot it due to lack of ammo. I bought a set of custom made Lee dies for reloading, but they are still being made.
        There was some Vz-52 RIFLE ammo for sale here not too long ago....



        A good source tells me it's still available. PM me if interested. I'm in LA/Burbank area. Yes, I do own a Vz-52 Rifle and it is mighty pretty. Looks new. But it's not for sale.




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        Last edited by CALI-gula; 04-19-2008, 10:09 AM.
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        • #5
          saki302
          Calguns Addict
          • Oct 2005
          • 7186

          I owned an actual 52/57 awhile back- my uncle ended up buying it from me

          It's a pretty neat rifle- I would give the SKS the nod in reliability just because it's a simpler design, but the CZ is fun- and it has that 'planet of the apes' look

          Parts are expensive, mags are expensive, but the 52/57 uses regular 7.62x39 ammo properly. Buy one if you can find it- they hodl their value, and then some! Expect to pay $550 to $700 for one now.

          Another nice companion piece is the Rashid (Rasheed) rifle, also in 7.62x39.

          -Dave
          Last edited by saki302; 04-19-2008, 5:03 PM.

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          • #6
            scootergmc
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2006
            • 4089

            VZ. The rifle is a VZ, not a CZ. VZ. VZ. VZ. VZ.

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            • #7
              Sampachi
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 812

              CALI-gula, I'm up north, but otherwise thanks for pointing out the ammo. Shipping would be too expensive, I think.

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              • #8
                packnrat
                Veteran Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 3939

                anyone got a line on dies for the czech 7.62x45?

                i know or at least...read rcbs makes them but for a price.

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                big gun's...i love big gun's

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                • #9
                  smle-man
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2007
                  • 10580

                  VZ 52 clips

                  Anyone need a bunch of VZ 52 stripper clips? I've got some. They look like mauser clips but aren't quite the same dimensions.

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                  • #10
                    pogo
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 588

                    If you're buying ask the seller to check the stock out closely and describe it fully. A lot of the VZ52's I've seen have cracked wrists. By the way that's a very nice example, Caligula.

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                    • #11
                      packnrat
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2007
                      • 3939

                      Originally posted by smle-man
                      Anyone need a bunch of VZ 52 stripper clips? I've got some. They look like mauser clips but aren't quite the same dimensions.
                      are the strippers the same as for sks?

                      i can not check right now as most of what i own is in boxes (moving),
                      and with all the sks strippers i own not one is out of a box.

                      picked up a very good vz52 at reno this past weekend. with a lot of surplus ammo. (and the conversion part for x39).

                      i like the gun just good ammo is pricey.

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                      big gun's...i love big gun's

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                      • #12
                        scootergmc
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 4089

                        Originally posted by packnrat
                        are the strippers the same as for sks?
                        no.

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                        • #13
                          SVT-40
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2008
                          • 12894

                          Here is a collage of photos of my Vz 52/57. It's all matching and unfired.

                          Poke'm with a stick!


                          Originally posted by fiddletown
                          What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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                          • #14
                            scootergmc
                            Veteran Member
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 4089

                            Beautiful. I wish mine looked as nice.

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                            • #15
                              smle-man
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 10580

                              NIce rifle! I remember when Paragon in IL was selling these unissued along with unissued Eqyptian FN49s. I debated buying one of each but didn't buy either one.

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