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  • lilguy
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2011
    • 41

    What issues would prevent one getting a license.

    I need to know what legal issues would prevent me from getting my license renewed. I was ticketed by the DNR for illegally feeding whitetail deer causing them to herd and accessory to hunting over bait for letting it be done on my farm. Ones a petting crime the other a misdemeanor. The agent stated if I plead
    guilty, which I am, they may drop one of the tickets. Is this infraction enough of an issue to preclude me from getting my license renewed.
  • #2
    pro-nra
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2270

    I doubt if that is enough to red flag you when they run and FBI check as you did not get booked and the incident was not reported to the FBI database but you never know though. Just send your application and all they can say is no.

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    • #3
      Grendl
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 1657

      If I cared about my license, I would talk to an attorney specializing in this area before I entered a plead. I would not leave it to chance and speculation.

      The Cal Guns Foundation will have referrals for you.
      YOU NEED A GUN TRUST.

      TLCGunTrust@gmail.com
      Nothing I post here constitutes legal advice, nor can it establish an attorney/client relationship.

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      • #4
        Mssr. Eleganté
        Blue Blaze Irregular
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Originally posted by lilguy
        ..Ones a petting crime the other a misdemeanor. The agent stated if I plead guilty, which I am, they may drop one of the tickets. Is this infraction enough of an issue to preclude me from getting my license renewed.
        First, you need to really find out what the charges are. Find out if they can charge you with a felony, a misdemeanor or an infraction. I'm assuming that "petting crime" is just your phone autocorrecting "petty crime", unless there is a separate charge for petting the deer.

        I don't think "petty crime" is an official level of crime in California. "Petty" is used to describe other crimes like "petty theft", which I believe can be charged as either a misdemeanor or an infraction. Maybe the agent meant that one of your charges is a misdemeanor and one is an infraction. If he told you one is a misdemeanor and one is petty then that could mean both are misdemeanors. But if he is that confused on terminology then you need to find out if one of the charges could be a felony. Sometimes they will give people a really sweet deal on non-violent crimes if they plead guilty to a felony and the person doesn't realize how serious the charge was until they try to vote or buy a gun years later.

        The background check for a C&R FFL is the same one as buying a shotgun from a gun shop. Felonies and violent misdemeanors are the things that will stop you from getting a C&R FFL.
        Last edited by Mssr. Eleganté; 03-15-2013, 9:43 AM.
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        • #5
          lasbrg
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2012
          • 4240

          Originally posted by lilguy
          ... I was ticketed by the DNR for illegally feeding whitetail deer causing them to herd and accessory to hunting over bait for letting it be done on my farm. Ones a petting crime the other a misdemeanor. ...
          First, you need to really find out what the charges are. Find out if they can charge you with a felony, a misdemeanor or an infraction. I'm assuming that "petting crime" is just your phone autocorrecting "petty crime", unless there is a separate charge for petting the deer.
          Feeding deer - misdemeanor
          Petting them - felony
          Shooting them - allowed

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          • #6
            winnre
            Calguns Addict
            • Apr 2010
            • 9214

            Originally posted by lasbrg
            Feeding deer - misdemeanor
            Petting them - felony
            Shooting them - allowed
            Getting a hooker = Solicitation = Misdemeanor
            Saying to your buddy "Hey let's go get hookers" = Conspiracy = Felony.
            "If Jesus had a gun he would be alive today"-Homer Simpson

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            • #7
              lasbrg
              Veteran Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 4240

              Originally posted by Grendl
              If I cared about my license, I would talk to an attorney specializing in this area before I entered a plead. I would not leave it to chance and speculation.

              The Cal Guns Foundation will have referrals for you.
              To the OP: The above is excellent advice. Not just for your 03FFL, but for the original charges. Maybe the DNR case against you has problems and a lawyer could get it dismissed. An attorney probably costs less than you think.

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              • #8
                Paltik
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 746

                My opinion is that LEO's and DA's like to recommend pleading guilty for reduced charges or sentences because it looks good for them to have high conviction rates. So they pile on charges to give themselves something to give up hoping to avoid having to build a strong case, taking time and resources for court, etc.

                I don't know how compelling the proof is that you did what you're charged with, but I'm guessing you'd have a decent chance at getting off. For me it usually comes down to the fact that I can absorb the infraction more than I can afford the money for a lawyer. But these things can impact our lives in unexpected ways and I am amazed at how many people plead guilty because the ARRESTING OFFICER or PROSECUTOR told them it was in their best interests!

                I have a friend that plead guilty under the prosecution's advice, and in retrospect they threw the book at him and bolstered their "hard on crime" reputation. He did time for a year, got a felony record, lost his trucker's license, and is still on probation. His crime? Accepting money to give three people a ride in the cab of his truck. Turns out they were illegal aliens. I was telling him to get a lawyer at the time, but he wanted to save the money.

                IANAL, none of us are--and that's my point. You most likely don't know what's at stake right now.

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