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  • McNally M.
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1088

    Mosin Nagant Stock

    Attached is a photo of a Mosin stock with a circle of some sort stamped into the wood. What is it? I've only every seen a few. After having refinished one of my wartime stocks I noticed the remnants of what I believe was this symbol. I must have missed it when I had the stock was in its original shellack and the light sanding I did when I refinished made it even fainter. I'm afraid I may have obliterated something unique or rare in my ignorance.
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    Chaos47
    Calguns Addict
    • Apr 2010
    • 6615

    Soviet cartouche

    Very common to be missing or sanded down on an arsenal refinished stock.





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    • #3
      mosinnagantm9130
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2009
      • 8782

      Soviet crest, but to my knowledge it was only stamped on Izhevsk stocks.

      It is relatively uncommon...I would pay a slight premium for a mosin with that stamp vs. an identical rifle without it.
      Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
      My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

      Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
      Originally posted by ChopperX
      I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
      Originally posted by Jeff L
      Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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      • #4
        yellowsled
        Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 343

        Originally posted by McNally M.
        Attached is a photo of a Mosin stock with a circle of some sort stamped into the wood. What is it? I've only every seen a few. After having refinished one of my wartime stocks I noticed the remnants of what I believe was this symbol. I must have missed it when I had the stock was in its original shellack and the light sanding I did when I refinished made it even fainter. I'm afraid I may have obliterated something unique or rare in my ignorance.


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        • #5
          McNally M.
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1088

          Ahh dang it. Here I am thinking that I am a staunch purist trying to convince any calgunner that wants to budda his Mosin to leave it be, and the one time I go against my own grain I do it on something of considerable rarity. Additionally, the stock was off an ex-sniper, you could tell by the stock repair on the left side. But in my defense the stock was in poor shape. What shellack was still present was starting to chip away and it made for an unpleasant experience when taking the rifle out to shoot. It was the only spare stock I had to work with, so I did the dumb thing that I did and tried to "beautify" it. It does look considerably better and I attempted to apply what looks like the dark reddish arctic birch finish that some war time stocks have, but alas all of it was done at the expense of history. Oh, what I dummie I am...
          "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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          • #6
            gwgn02
            Banned
            • Sep 2011
            • 3397

            Originally posted by McNally M.
            Ahh dang it. Here I am thinking that I am a staunch purist trying to convince any calgunner that wants to budda his Mosin to leave it be, and the one time I go against my own grain I do it on something of considerable rarity. Additionally, the stock was off an ex-sniper, you could tell by the stock repair on the left side. But in my defense the stock was in poor shape. What shellack was still present was starting to chip away and it made for an unpleasant experience when taking the rifle out to shoot. It was the only spare stock I had to work with, so I did the dumb thing that I did and tried to "beautify" it. It does look considerably better and I attempted to apply what looks like the dark reddish arctic birch finish that some war time stocks have, but alas all of it was done at the expense of history. Oh, what I dummie I am...
            Pic?

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            • #7
              macman9
              Member
              • Sep 2011
              • 305

              Next time dont sand The Stock to remove The old finish. Use furiture paste stripper. And wash it of with laquer thinner or acatone. Thinner wont raise The grain and you wont have to sand hardly at all. I finish cabinets and refinish cabinets and furiture for a living.

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              • #8
                Vlad 11
                Veteran Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 2961

                Next time dont sand The Stock to remove The old finish. Use furniture paste stripper.
                You dont even need sandpaper or any type of stripper for a refurb Mosin. Its finish is shellack , a rubdown with a rag and denatured alchol and the shellack melts right away. Not that i would advocate a refinsh

                If you must, get a replacement stock from AIM while they still have em for $20. But even those are in decent shape anyway

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                • #9
                  macman9
                  Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 305

                  Denatured alcohol wont clean then wood very well. Thinner or acetone will clean all The old finish and any Grease and oil of The wood. The wood has to clean good or The new finish wont stick to The wood. And u will have delamination. And The finish will start to chip or peel off.
                  And If Its just shellack Thats on The stock acatone will take If off real Easy. And it wont take very Long to dry so u can stain and Apply The new finish real quick.

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                  • #10
                    C&Rtrader
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 1332

                    Originally posted by Vlad 11
                    You dont even need sandpaper or any type of stripper for a refurb Mosin. Its finish is shellack , a rubdown with a rag and denatured alchol and the shellack melts right away. Not that i would advocate a refinsh

                    If you must, get a replacement stock from AIM while they still have em for $20. But even those are in decent shape anyway
                    ^^ this. dont apply a new finish. Just get rid of the shellac using denatured alcohol..... that stuff melts the shellac right off. use a light soap on the wood if you must. Leave the sandpaper in the drawer
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                    • #11
                      McNally M.
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 1088

                      All great tips guys. I should've asked before I acted. Should I ever decide to refinish a mosin stock (I won't) I will be sure to keep all these golden tips in mind. You can trust me though, I've certainly learned my lesson.
                      "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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                      • #12
                        McNally M.
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1088

                        Originally posted by Vlad 11
                        You dont even need sandpaper or any type of stripper for a refurb Mosin. Its finish is shellack , a rubdown with a rag and denatured alchol and the shellack melts right away. Not that i would advocate a refinsh

                        If you must, get a replacement stock from AIM while they still have em for $20. But even those are in decent shape anyway
                        I capitalized on their 3 stocks for $49 deal before they sold out. I sent in my order about two weeks ago and got two post war and one war time stock all in pretty good shape. Alas, no cartouches though. They are indeed not that common and probably only exist on pre war or war time stocks. Post war stocks are too clean.

                        By the way, how often does AIM sell Mosin stocks like that? I've known about them for only about a year now and already I've seen them offer some amazing deals on Mosin related items. I bought a few of those ammo pouches when they were getting rid of them for $.50 each. That was the best deal around, likewise with these stocks.
                        "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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                        • #13
                          mosinnagantm9130
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2009
                          • 8782

                          Originally posted by McNally M.
                          I capitalized on their 3 stocks for $49 deal before they sold out. I sent in my order about two weeks ago and got two post war and one war time stock all in pretty good shape. Alas, no cartouches though. They are indeed not that common and probably only exist on pre war or war time stocks. Post war stocks are too clean.

                          By the way, how often does AIM sell Mosin stocks like that? I've known about them for only about a year now and already I've seen them offer some amazing deals on Mosin related items. I bought a few of those ammo pouches when they were getting rid of them for $.50 each. That was the best deal around, likewise with these stocks.
                          I don't know if they used that cartouche on post war 91/30 stocks, but they certainly did on post war M44s.
                          Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                          My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                          Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                          Originally posted by ChopperX
                          I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                          Originally posted by Jeff L
                          Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                          • #14
                            mosinnagantm9130
                            Calguns Addict
                            • May 2009
                            • 8782

                            Originally posted by gwgn02
                            my tula sniper has one... faint but there with the star
                            Can you post a closer pic of that star? It looks...odd somehow. Not like the other Tula stars I've seen on stocks.
                            Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                            My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                            Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                            Originally posted by ChopperX
                            I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                            Originally posted by Jeff L
                            Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                            • #15
                              McNally M.
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1088

                              How many wartime stocks have you guys seen that have the small metal escutcheon on both the front and rear sling slots? The stock that I refinished has it feature. I've seen dozens of wartime stocks that have the metal escutcheon tab on the front slot but not the back. However mine has it on both.
                              "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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