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  • killjoy1137
    Member
    • May 2012
    • 161

    C&R gunshow question

    I'm not sure if this is the right place for this but I was thinking about going to the Del Mar gun show next month and was wondering if C&R guns like mosins are cash and carry? Thanks.
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    Crunch130
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2010
    • 750

    C&R long guns at least 50 years old (actual date of manufacture; not design) are cash & carry from a private party. From a gun dealer, they must be DROS'ed.

    This is true whether you have a C&R FFL or not.

    All handguns must be DROS'ed through a dealer.

    For antiques (actual date of manufacture 1898 or earlier), long gun or handgun, cash & carry.

    All muzzleloaders, cash & carry, except a few in-lines that use the same receiver for modern ammo with a barrel swap.

    Crunch
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    • #3
      killjoy1137
      Member
      • May 2012
      • 161

      Ok thanks.

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      • #4
        DennisCA
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4067

        Originally posted by Crunch130
        C&R long guns at least 50 years old (actual date of manufacture; not design) are cash & carry from a private party. From a gun dealer, they must be DROS'ed.

        This is true whether you have a C&R FFL or not.

        All handguns must be DROS'ed through a dealer.

        For antiques (actual date of manufacture 1898 or earlier), long gun or handgun, cash & carry.

        All muzzleloaders, cash & carry, except a few in-lines that use the same receiver for modern ammo with a barrel swap.

        Crunch
        Agree +1
        IMHO - Gun shows (generally) C&R's are over-priced. Being that said once a great while you'll find a honest person who has decent prices.
        "The only thing necessary for the triumph [of evil] is for good men to do nothing." Edmund Burke speech of 23 April 1770, "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents," delivered to the House of Commons.

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        • #5
          os52
          Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 106

          C&R gunshow question

          Originally posted by DennisCA
          Agree +1
          IMHO - Gun shows (generally) C&R's are over-priced. Being that said once a great while you'll find a honest person who has decent prices.
          You have to know what you are looking at/for and you have to know what it might be worth...and what you are willing to pay. If you are prepared, then you will have no problem. Up here in Northern California, C&R dealers/Private Party Sellars usually will remember you & negotiating to a fair price is your job...

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          • #6
            edwardfa
            Member
            • Sep 2011
            • 490

            Originally posted by os52
            You have to know what you are looking at/for and you have to know what it might be worth...and what you are willing to pay. If you are prepared, then you will have no problem. Up here in Northern California, C&R dealers/Private Party Sellars usually will remember you & negotiating to a fair price is your job...
            This is great advise! Thanks for sharing!
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            • #7
              NOTABIKER
              Calguns Addict
              • Mar 2012
              • 7635

              some FFL will sell cash and carry. not sure about the law regarding C&R sales. i think a FFL can do a private party sale of a 50 year old rifle if they want to.

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              • #8
                Tmckinney
                Member
                • Mar 2012
                • 311

                I would be very careful of any offer to sell you a gun cash and carry unless you were extremely sure it met the requirements. With all the anti gun stuff going on an undercover operation at a gun show is very likely. I'd be even more worried about selling anything I wasn't sure was over 50 for the same reason.

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                • #9
                  Flyin Brian
                  CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 3395

                  Originally posted by NOTABIKER
                  some FFL will sell cash and carry. not sure about the law regarding C&R sales. i think a FFL can do a private party sale of a 50 year old rifle if they want to.
                  WTH? If you're talking about an 01FFL, as in a dealer, then NO they will not sell cash & carry. I've encountered some very stupid dealers and even the dumbest ones know that is illegal. If they have a firearm logged in their books, they MUST log it out, period. The only way to log it out is by performing a DROS or logging it out to another 01FFL. There's no lee-way, they can't do something different "if they want to". There's a paper trail for a reason.
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