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  • ziconceo
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3269

    Got some ariska recievers with the mums still intact!

    Hello everyone, I recently came across 2 WWII ariska receivers (along with bolts, trigger housing, trigger assembly and bolt locks) with the mums still intact. was wondering how much they were worth alone but also how much would they be worth if i were to barrel them and put them in stocks. Also, should i use steel wool on them to get rid of some of the rust or keep it there? I have no interest in keeping these and want to sell the eventually. thanks!
    Last edited by ziconceo; 01-05-2013, 3:43 AM.
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    ziconceo
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 3269

    Last edited by ziconceo; 01-05-2013, 11:55 AM.
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    • #3
      6mmintl
      Veteran Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 4822

      Id go $50 on T38 action shown, rebarrelling/chamber cuts are unusual/time consuming and aftermarket stocks are very hard to find new/used.

      Lots of labor/love to restore to a sporter or military.

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      • #4
        ziconceo
        Veteran Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 3269

        Actually, I can get matching barrels and stocks for really cheap. In a few weeks I can get them and they are for those exact receivers. (matching numbers to make a complete rifle). also, there are 2 actions not just one, are they both t38? thanks
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        • #5
          Vlad 11
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2961

          Dont use steel wool on them!!

          Those don't look that bad, if you were inclined to sell them
          leave them as is. Bronze wool if anything.

          I dont believe Arisaka actions are all that desirable or worth a whole lot. Matching bolt plus intact Mum is a plus but a restore is going to cost much more than just finding a complete rifle. Plus it will always just be a parts gun.

          You could list them on the Japanese trader on gunboards, they might sell there

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          • #6
            Justin Case
            Banned
            • Feb 2012
            • 572

            Those are Type 99s.

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            • #7
              Sampachi
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2007
              • 812

              The top two photos are T38s and the lower photos are T99s.

              Knowledgeable Arisaka collectors are a very picky bunch. They'll spot a restoration/mixed parts gun from a mile away, just by the mixed acceptance stamps. Mismatched rifles never go for much money.

              If it were me, I'd probably work on my gunsmithing skills and make a nice .308 rifle out of one.

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              • #8
                surplus-addict
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                • Jul 2011
                • 6534

                Originally posted by Sampachi
                The top two photos are T38s and the lower photos are T99s.

                Knowledgeable Arisaka collectors are a very picky bunch. They'll spot a restoration/mixed parts gun from a mile away, just by the mixed acceptance stamps. Mismatched rifles never go for much money.

                If it were me, I'd probably work on my gunsmithing skills and make a nice .308 rifle out of one.
                He said he can get all the parts to make a complete, parts matching rifle.
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                • #9
                  GOEX FFF
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                  • Jun 2007
                  • 6388

                  Originally posted by surplus-addict
                  He said he can get all the parts to make a complete, parts matching rifle.
                  I'll bet dollars to doughnuts OP will be hard pressed to get the correct stock to the receiver. One might slap on any ole' stock, but not all Arisaka stocks are correct for a particular rifle. There are differences in them for an arsenal and/or series receiver. Sampachi is right, true collectors will spot a mix-master from a mile away.
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                  • #10
                    FourTenJaeger
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                    • Oct 2010
                    • 11540

                    Don't try to clean them up, shine, polish, or ''improve'' them. Please.

                    Intact mums are getting harder to find.

                    Don't sporterize them.
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                    • #11
                      gunboat
                      Veteran Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 3288

                      Best bet is to sell them to someone with a complete rifle with a drilled & tapped receiver or who wants one without a ground mum.
                      Or you buy their D&T unit and rebuild it yourself.
                      I don't think receivers are C&R --
                      my tuppence

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                      • #12
                        Justin Case
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 572

                        Originally posted by Sampachi
                        The top two photos are T38s and the lower photos are T99s.

                        Knowledgeable Arisaka collectors are a very picky bunch. They'll spot a restoration/mixed parts gun from a mile away, just by the mixed acceptance stamps. Mismatched rifles never go for much money.

                        If it were me, I'd probably work on my gunsmithing skills and make a nice .308 rifle out of one.
                        I was commenting on the ones pictured with mums.

                        You're right that the one in the upper right is a Type 38.

                        So, OP; how many do you have again?

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                        • #13
                          Sampachi
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2007
                          • 812

                          If he has all the matching parts and the correct stocks, that is one thing. If he has to find stocks and a few parts, that's another.
                          There can be quite a bit of difference in stocks between the arsenals, and even differences within the years they were made.

                          I'm just stating that parts guns or restorations don't sell well to people who collect Arisakas.

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                          • #14
                            ziconceo
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2011
                            • 3269

                            I have 2 receivers, trigger groups, bolts, magazine floor plates, magazine springs, magazine followers, and magazine/ trigger guards. The bolts do not match but im getting about 4 more bolts that may match. (this is all coming from a big box and i grabbed as much as I could from it in a hurry) I have not tried to restore the actions nor will i try to now with your guys advice. Ill try to get the rest of the parts on the 18th and take pics asap
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                            • #15
                              Vlad 11
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 2961

                              The bolts themselves have some decent value. I think complete bolts will get 60-90 bucks

                              But a matching bolt and receiver might be desirable to someone, I'm sure you'll be able to sell it eventually

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