mosin ammo experts: What is this?

[Ballistic043]

i am having trouble finding information about this ammunition. can you guys help?

it was purchased at ammo brothers;

the tin appears to be bulgarian, but the markings on the brass i am not familiar with. and it doesnt seem to match with any of the ammo i found on 62.54.net

http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo.htm

here are some pictures that might help

Tin

http://shadow.slipgate.org/Weapons/DSC04730.JPG

Round

http://shadow.slipgate.org/Weapons/DSC04729.JPG

Tip (Left round is the unknown stuff, right round is albanian)

http://shadow.slipgate.org/Weapons/DSC04728.JPG

Case Markings

http://shadow.slipgate.org/Weapons/DSC04727.JPG

the bullet tip is 148 grains. the weird part is, the bullet is a flat base, not boat tail. i am pretty sure its nagant ammo (darren sold it to me) just haven't seen it before. i am wondering how the reliability and consistency is.

[76231b]

Bulgarian, its corrosive. Looks like the same stuff from aim.

[Jaiofspam]

have any split or dimpled cases in the tin? if so its bulgarian

[Ballistic043]

yes, there are dented shoulders. but theres also plenty of dimples in my albanian ammo as well. but split cases? if you are not joking that is very concerning. and ill have to inspect each round of this bulgarian VERY carefully. i dont want anything going KB in my nagant..



is the ammo reliable? is it considered heavy, light or medium ball? does it stick, what is the velocity, and again, wtf is up with this split case talk!?!?

[Jaiofspam]

normal to inspect and find a split case or two....
i found one that was split and a few that have a seam going all the way down
whats the worse that can happen? you could probably be seriously injured but most likely just get sprayed in the face with gas

its light ball from my understanding, flew fast and went bang all the time in my mosin

[mcubed4130]

yes, there are dented shoulders. but theres also plenty of dimples in my albanian ammo as well. but split cases? if you are not joking that is very concerning. and ill have to inspect each round of this bulgarian VERY carefully. i dont want anything going KB in my nagant..



is the ammo reliable? is it considered heavy, light or medium ball? does it stick, what is the velocity, and again, wtf is up with this split case talk!?!?

I bought a ton of this stuff from SOG a while back... exact same markings.

Good stuff; mine came on 5round clips; never had a problem with it; my son and I both shoot it all the time.

More details here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...4&postcount=22

-M3

[M. Sage]

Appears to be the same ammo as this, just older: http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo015.htm

The powder in the one I pulled down was different. Extruded, not flakes. Definitely light ball, lead core. It's not boat-tail. The base is hollow. Light ball steel core is usually boat tail, in my experiences. Albanian is. It'll probably be magnetic, but only because it's got a copper-washed mild steel jacket (if it's magnetic). Probably no steel in the core, but I didn't cut the one I pulled down apart.

Haven't shot any of it yet.

[Spiggy]

When in Doubt; It's Corrosive

[Ballistic043]

thanks for the help. the albanian shoots very well in my m44. i hope the bulgarian does the same! im going out to burro on st patricks day

[JimmyD]

i just bought the same thing at the ventury county gun show! though the stamps at the bottom of the cartridge are different

[corpsedub]

is it in pink packages? if so i have some. shoots fine. i did have a few with dimples and amazinly only 1 cracked neck. holow base.

[easy]

i just bought the same thing ...though the stamps at the bottom of the cartridge are different

Not the same then is it?

[Ballistic043]

yep, that would be the stuff. came in a purplish/pink type wax paper. hows the kick? it weighs less than the albanian, and that stuff is a pleasure to shoot

[JimmyD]

Not the same then is it?

I guess its not, for some reason i saw yellow tips in the picture

btw:
http://62x54r.net/MosinID/MosinAmmo015.htm this bulgarian surplus isnt boat tailed and its light ball

[JimmyD]

also according to: http://cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

there was a russian arsenal that used the same headstamp code (10) as the bulgarian factory.