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I actually ordered 6 from Classic and 2 from J&G. Of the 8 I sold or am selling 3 and keeping 5. I had a small collection before these came along but the SKS fits me and interests me like no other firearm does. I'll be at around 17 or so by the time I get the two from Widener (or if I get them...) There are some haters out there but I love Yugo SKS's and never really shoot corrosive x39 anyway.Comment
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Ask forgiveness, not permission.
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If you have an 03 FFL, you agreed to follow all federal, state and local laws. California law requires that C&R long guns be 50+ years old in order to be shipped to a 03 FFL in this state. "Ask forgiveness, not permission." is exactly the attitude that will result in a crackdown on 03FFL's. Until it is shown that these rifles are 50+ years old, you have no business ordering them and may be breaking the law. Those that "order away" before this issue is clarified may end up losing their 03 FFL and deserve any repercussions that may occur.
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Harsh...
So anyone find out if these are 50years old? I would have thought that by wideners dubbing them c&r they would be...DSA Imbel FAL 21"
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Just being on the C&R list does not automatically mean that a firearm is 50+ years old.
I tend to doubt that these are 50+ years old as they are rebuilt Model 59s. Most 59s were built in the mid 60's.
Unless someone finds a way to confirm via serial number or Wideners can prove where these have been for the last 50 years
(this is why we were able to purchase those chicom SKSs), you will be risking your license and freedom by having it shipped to you.Last edited by TRICKSTER; 12-10-2012, 4:46 PM.
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Don't know about "bubbad pile of crap", but they are not original M59s. At best they are M59s rebuilt with a 59/66 barrel. You can tell that it is a 59/66 barrel as it has the gas shut off valve and the 59/66 bayonet. Or they may simply be 59/66 with the grenade launcher apparatus removed which would explain why they also appear to have the 59/66 butt plate. Either way they should throw up some caution flags.Last edited by TRICKSTER; 12-10-2012, 5:09 PM.
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Yes its factoy refurbed, but I consider it bubbad as its been rebarreled. I also dislike that they are labeling anything "59" when its obviously a 59/66 with the grenade sight ground off and modified. This thing is nothing more than a shooter and has little to no collector value to it.
If I saw that a gun show, I would maybe consider it for $199 as strictly a shooter. I wouldn't spend a dollar more on it.sigpic
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Wait a minute. Were this rearsenaled in the Eastern bloc for military purposes?
Because if that's the case, then this is no Bubba job. This is the equivalent of the Finns reworking Mosins to their own specs. Then this is just an issued variant that happens to not have a designated model.
Did anybody find out more about the real story behind these?WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.Comment
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Thats what I want to know. Lots of guesses and speculations but as far as I can discern, no actual facts. Another thread had some links to whatever AIM was selling but this seems to be a different batch of SKS.
And to all the collectors, not everyone here with their 03 is interested in safe queens. Lots of us are interested in shooting the guns we buy so maybe we can tone down on the hating etc.Comment
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From what I've been reading and seeing, these are the same rifles as the ones AIM was selling last year. They seem to have been rebarreled in Bosnia recently.
What I find ironic is that because these rifles happen to be SKS variants (basically m59/66 with new barrels), but a recent, non-military designated version which probably is limited to a 4-digit production, these rifles might actually go up in value eventually and be sought after. The purists who are turning their noses up might eventually regret being such snobs. They might not have any military historical value, but they are a valuable, interesting variant.WTB: French & Finnish firearms. WTS: raw honey, tumbled .45 ACP brass, stupid cat.Comment
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I e-mailed Wideners this morning to ask these questions and if they will ship them to California. Awaiting response, will let you guys know what I hear. These look like nice rifles to me, but I am an SKS newbie, I only have one, a '55 Tula, so what do I know? And my Tula is a shooter, definitely has a refinished stock because it is blonde, but it is really nice looking too.
I think that in C&R, there are collector/purists, then there are those of us who like to shoot them and appreciate a nice looking, reliable rifle with some history, even if the rifle may not be historically accurate. I will not Bubba any gun but I have bought some slightly Bubba'd C&Rs like my '53 Hungarian M44 that someone put sling studs on and painted the sling ferrules. It is semi-Bubba'd but a nice looking rifle and will hopefully be a good shooter (taking it out for a shoot tomorrow for the first time). I still think I can sell this rifle for the same as a historically accurate Russian M44, because not everyone is a purist.NRA Certified Metallic Cartridge Reloading Instructor, Shotgun Instructor and Range Safety Officer
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