My Hungarian M44 Trigger

[Capybara]

You might recall that I scored a nice '53 Hungarian M44 at a gun show about a month ago. http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=639425 Have not had a chance to shoot it yet but have spent some time cleaning it and trying to fix some of the Bubba'd stuff that someone did to it. I noticed that the trigger pull is light, really light. I don't have a trigger pull gauge but I compared it to the second stage of my CZ527 Varmint and the M44 is right there, about the same as the second stage on the CZ, probably at about 2-3 pounds, really light. I took apart the bolt, checked firing pin protrusion, all seems good with the bolt.

Just as an experiment, I switched bolts with my 91/30 and the trigger stayed the same, really light. What's weird is without the bolt in, the trigger pull between my 91/30 and the M44 seems about the same, fairly "springy" I know it's not the true trigger pull without the bolt in place, but when I insert the bolt, the trigger pull on the M44 seems really light. Should I take the trigger apart and see if Bubba stoned the trigger and sear too smooth or removed too much metal? I don't want the gun to be unsafe. For distance shooting, I think the light trigger will be nice, it is still fairly crisp, just unexpectedly light.

Advice on how to proceed? Any tests I should run without ammo to make sure that the trigger is safe?

[Capybara]

Will do. I'll post back with what I find, as soon as the holiday is over.

[Vlad 11]

Make sure the rifle is unloaded.

Get a phone book. Cock the rifle and slam the butt down on the book. Drop it down on the book from a few feet. If it stays cocked your good.

There should be positive engagement on the sear, you can see this as you pull the trigger the cocking piece will pull slightly downward

Some Mosins just have good (relatively)light triggers

[Capybara]

Vlad, great test, I will do that and see what happens. I tried just smacking the rear of the bolt to see what happened (nothing) but your test is better.

[68Datsun510]

I have a 9130 sporter with the same issue although I think this trigger pull is around 1 and a half pounds. touch it with your pinky and it goes off, butt stomp the rifle, it goes off. drop it goes off... no spacer under the sear, I think someone played with it...

[Capybara]

So the question becomes, is it possible to repair the trigger/sear on a rifle like yours? Do you just have buy a whole new trigger mechanism from Numrich or somewhere? I suppose if too much metal has been removed, you are done, right? Gotta start from scratch?

[Vladimir]

Im sorry I cant help, but NICE mosin!!

[Capybara]

Vlad 11,

I just returned home and tried the phone book test. One good drop from about a foot, it held. Then I got vigorous, tried three drops from about ten inches, trigger went off. I am going to take it apart tonight. Don't want a gun that will go off if I drop it.

Any advice? I am going to check for a shim or washer, if there isn't anything there, I will shoot some images and will post. Hopefully this will be easy to fix.

[E Michael]

Just don't drop your gun :-D problem solved. Sling perhaps? haha

[Capybara]

Funny guy. What if I hand it to a friend to shoot and he/she drops it? I already have a Kydex wrap on my Uzi that negates the PG handle safety and that makes me nervous when shooting that gun. No, need for this M44 to be safe.

[E Michael]

I don't have friends to hand my guns to :-(

[kouye]

Check the rear part of the sear where it makes contact with the bolt knob. Has it been shaved down (sloped instead of flat) like a Finn sear? If so, you can probably just get another sear.

[kouye]

dup

[paul0660]

I have had a few of these, messed with them, and agree with everything offered so far.

Remember not to hand a loaded and cocked rifle would be rule #1 after all that point at stuff you want to destroy, etc.


Good luck Capy.

[Vlad 11]

haha

Ya ... hilarious

A bad trigger is not a laughing matter.

The good news is it should be a relatively easy fix, worse comes to worse
you can get new parts that are pretty cheap. But check it out,, might be as simple as a loose screw or pin

The diagram above is excellent at showing the sear angle. Stock trigger, it is very positive. ( i meant to say positive engagement in my orig post, duh) Sometime they're stoned to neutral or negative engagement. If the creep is taken out by a shim or bending this can be a bad combo.

Also the cocking piece needs to be considered

Take some pics ... dont lose the trigger pin