Yet Another YUGO SKS 59/66 and C&R

[One78Shovel]

Ok- We have been all over the place on this one.

Q- Can I purchase with C&R (gunbroker) a YUGO M59/66 that has a FIXED magazine and an installed muzzle break? I get the fixed mag, but there is discussion on removing the grenade launcher and what that does to C&R status

Q- If yes, can it be shipped into California or does it need to be picked up out of state and brought back? If I can't ship it here with my C&R, then why not?

Thanks
-178S

[rromeo]

It has to be 50 years old to ship to bypass DROS in California.

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Q- Can I purchase with C&R (gunbroker) a YUGO M59/66 that has a FIXED magazine and an installed muzzle break? I get the fixed mag, but there is discussion on removing the grenade launcher and what that does to C&R status

Yes.
Under CA laws, the grenade launcher is a DD and illegal to import/possess without having a Dangerous Weapons Permit for a DD.
Per BATFE, removing the grenade launcher does not affect it's C&R status.

Q- If yes, can it be shipped into California or does it need to be picked up out of state and brought back? If I can't ship it here with my C&R, then why not?

It can be shipped to a CA FFL dealer, where you will 4473/DROS + 10 day wait it. If you have a C&R FFL + COE, you are exmept from the 10 day wait.
Because they are less than 50 years old, they can not be shipped directly to you.

If you have a C&R FFL, you can legally go out of state and acquire it and bring it back.

[One78Shovel]

Yes.
Under CA laws, the grenade launcher is a DD and illegal to import/possess without having a Dangerous Weapons Permit for a DD.
Per BATFE, removing the grenade launcher does not affect it's C&R status.


It can be shipped to a CA FFL dealer, where you will 4473/DROS + 10 day wait it. If you have a C&R FFL + COE, you are exmept from the 10 day wait.
Because they are less than 50 years old, they can not be shipped directly to you.

If you have a C&R FFL, you can legally go out of state and acquire it and bring it back.

Is there a way to prove date? The one I am looking at (ZASTAVA SERBIA) is being advertised as C&R and OVER 50 years old.

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Is there a way to prove date? The one I am looking at (ZASTAVA SERBIA) is being advertised as C&R and OVER 50 years old.

Zastava Model 59/66 were manufactured from 1967-1989.
Therefore, there are no M59/66 that are 50 or more years old.

Zastava Model 59 were manufactured from 1959-1966.
Therefore, most M59 are 50 or more years old.

The difference between teh M59 and M59/66 is:
M59 is akin to a standard Soviet SKS type rifle.
M59/66 incorporates a grenade launcher, grenade launcher sights and gas cut off.

[One78Shovel]

Zastava Model 59/66 were manufactured from 1967-1989.
Therefore, there are no M59/66 that are 50 or more years old.

Zastava Model 59 were manufactured from 1959-1966.
Therefore, most M59 are 50 or more years old.

Thanks- I just PM'ed the seller asking him how he can prove that a 59/66 is over 50 years old. This should be good.....

-178S

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Thanks- I just PM'ed the seller asking him how he can prove that a 59/66 is over 50 years old. This should be good.....

-178S

Get the serial number range (letter prefix + numbers).

[One78Shovel]

Get the serial number range (letter prefix + numbers).

It starts w/ E-xxxxx (5 digit SN), 6 counting letter

[Mssr. Eleganté]

...Zastava Model 59 were manufactured from 1959-1966.
Therefore, most M59 are 50 or more years old.

Strangely, M59 production didn't really ramp up until 1964, so most M59s are still under 50 years old.

It starts w/ E-xxxxx (5 digit SN), 6 counting letter

The E prefix is from 1968.