Whats special about Double Dated Mosins?

[ChopperX]

Are they more valuable if they have a double date or is it just better to get a single date mosin nagant?

[NOTABIKER]

it is like a stamp or coin collector. different . not better. nothing better than a 1943 izzy with a good bore and referb. value 110-160 bucks.

[6mmintl]

just another one of 60 million.

[kouye]

This one goes to 11...

[backstrap]

There's rumors And ideas about them but nothing has been proven so google "MO mosin" and you can decide for yourself. I'm sure it would bring more money than a single stamp condition being equal but it's not the holy grail.
I prefer prewar mosins over 42,43's. Those receivers are ruff machined for sure.

[backstrap]

DP.

[Marcus von W.]

The double dated Mosins are interesting, and are worth maybe $20 more than a regular rifle if you like to collect Mosins with unusual but unknown markings and speculate as to what those markings might mean. If it is ever conclusively established what their purpose was and what the KO, XO, or MO markings stand for, it might give them a little additional value. Also, some are triple dated...these are much even more uncommon than the double dated ones and if you feel you need or want one, it probably adds another $10 in "value"...or at least to the price. To me, these markings are interesting and it would be nice to know their meaning, but they add very little to no value or additional collectability to a rifle....although I suppose if there were 2 otherwise identical examples of a Mosin I wanted or needed for my collection and one of them was MO and double date marked, I would take that one as there is a chance the marking might have some significance and additional value at a later date, or at least someone might think it does.

These markings probably stand for a Political unit or subdivision of the old Soviet Union, such as the M meaning Moscow, Minsk, or something like that. There is a story going around (that refuses to die like it should) that the MO marking stands for the Soviet Ministry of Defense. This is WRONG, WRONG, WRONG. Most of the added dates found with MO markings are pre-1953, and the Soviet "Ministry of Defense" agency did not exist before 1953. Now the Polish Communist "Ministry of Defense - MO" agency existed from at least 1943 (and maybe before that as a Soviet "puppet" agency), but there is nothing to give any reason to believe these rifles have any Polish use or connection.

So considering it most likely and believable that the MO marking stands for some political subdivision of the Soviet Union, it is like the New York "NY" marking somtimes found on Trapdoor Springfields - interesting but adds no real value.

[NOTABIKER]

Finn and snipers are worth some money. the rest are just fun to own. it is a good time to collect. i just found a Beautiful 1929 TULA at big 5 the other day. valuable ? NO 118 on sale.

[safewaysecurity]

Double date mosins? Meh. Its all about dem triple dates.

[ChopperX]

Okay thanks for the input guys. That helped

I'm looking at buying my first Mosin so I just wanna know what's out there. I've been on the 7.62x54r.net site looking at the rarities of the mosins. Quite interesting stuff.

[tdyoung1958]

Are they more valuable if they have a double date or is it just better to get a single date mosin nagant?

just means it was refurbed by someone, ie . . . my '42 finn capture was birthed as a '19 tula. it can either add or detract form the value depending on the rifle

There are a lot of refurbs that are marked MO (ministry of defense) that actually would be worth more if they hadn't been refurbed . . . . especially if their hex recievers

[emcon5]

There are a lot of refurbs that are marked MO (ministry of defense)

You know how I know you didn't bother to read the thread?

[NOTABIKER]

Okay thanks for the input guys. That helped

I'm looking at buying my first Mosin so I just wanna know what's out there. I've been on the 7.62x54r.net site looking at the rarities of the mosins. Quite interesting stuff.

are you a collector or just like to own and shoot them.
i would love to know the % of collectors and the % of shooters.
how many care if it is a Izzy or tula- yugo or russian sks- German or serb Mauser. the condition of the rifle and price mean the most to me. nothing wrong with being a collector but sometimes somebody just wants a nice shooter and we go off on what is more collectable to somebody that just wants a gun.
Example a guy want a nice SKS shooter. he can pick up a like new Yugo SKS for a lot less than a Collectable Russian SKS.

[ChopperX]

Well I wanna start a collection of the service rifles from each of the main countries that fought during WW2. I'm starting with Russia. So the rifle I would be buying is for collecting but I would also like to shoot it from time to time. I won't be shooting it all the time. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year. I have other guns that need to be shot

So I'm looking at rifles that are dated during WW2. I know the finish is a little rougher than pre war but I like it for that fact.

[NOTABIKER]

Well I wanna start a collection of the service rifles from each of the main countries that fought during WW2. I'm starting with Russia. So the rifle I would be buying is for collecting but I would also like to shoot it from time to time. I won't be shooting it all the time. Maybe 2 or 3 times a year. I have other guns that need to be shot

So I'm looking at rifles that are dated during WW2. I know the finish is a little rougher than pre war but I like it for that fact.

i have a 1943 izzy, except for the rough machine work everything else about the rifle is very good. lots of good ones out their cheep. something special about a rifle made in 1942-44. Germany was still at the gate.