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  • emcon5
    Veteran Member
    • Sep 2009
    • 3347

    K98 Sniper scope mount variations?

    I am trying to get a little better understanding of German sniper rifles without having to spend $70-$100 on a book.

    Can anyone point me to an online resource that gives an overview of the different K98k scope mounting systems? with the general time periods for each?

    Short side rail
    Long side rail
    Low turret
    High turret
    Swept back/ZF4 mount
    Single claw
    Double claw

    Why were there so many variants, did each manufacturer come up with their own system?

    Thanks,
  • #2
    mosinnagantm9130
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2009
    • 8782

    I'd be curious to know about this too, if anyone knows such a place.
    Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
    My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

    Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
    Originally posted by ChopperX
    I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
    Originally posted by Jeff L
    Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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    • #3
      SVT-40
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2008
      • 12907

      Just buy the books. That subject is so very detailed it would take thousands of post to eve scratch the surface.
      Poke'm with a stick!


      Originally posted by fiddletown
      What you believe and what is true in real life in the real world aren't necessarily the same thing. And what you believe doesn't change what is true in real life in the real world.

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      • #4
        TRAP55
        Calguns Addict
        • Jul 2008
        • 5536

        Originally posted by SVT-40
        Just buy the books. That subject is so very detailed it would take thousands of post to eve scratch the surface.
        This^^^
        Roughly, the claw mounts came out first, all the rest more or less ran together, and the ZF 4 coming in last. They used whatever they could get a hold of, even some Russian made PE scopes.
        Here's a rare one, a 2.5X Zeiss mounted to the rear sight on a WWI GEW 98.

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        • #5
          Paulie Lugnuts
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1756

          THere was an article in Shotgun News a couple of monthes ago. You might check online and see if they sell back issues.
          Because milsurp.

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          • #6
            diopter
            Junior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 38

            This might just get your feet wet.

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            • #7
              emcon5
              Veteran Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 3347

              Well, I bought Law's Backbone of the Wehrmacht, Vol. II: Sniper Variations of the German K98k Rifle. Good book, with a staggering volume of detail.

              For future reference, I will answer my own question with a general overview from the book:

              Short side railLow & High turret 1939, High vs low was evidently determined by the availability and variation of commercial optics. Some scopes needed to sit higher to clear the bolt handle. Early examples made by Army Ordinance offices, later produced Mauser Oberndorf and JP Sauer & Sohn

              Long side rail 1943, developed by JP Sauer & Sohn with thicker receiver wall, produced primarily by Gustloff-Werke

              Single & Double claw Both introduced in 1943, primarily used by Waffen SS, who made their own sniper rifles.

              Swept back/ZF4 1945, attempt to standardize on the Zf4 scope originally designed for G43. They didn't get far before the war ended.

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              • #8
                TRAP55
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2008
                • 5536

                Excellent summary, which one ya going to build now?

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                • #9
                  Jarhead
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 2847

                  You will need more than one book if your a serious student of the German WW2 Sniper rifles

                  We deliver the highest quality sniper scope mounts and accessories for German, Russian, Yugo, Swiss and Swedish military rifles.
                  Last edited by Jarhead; 01-21-2013, 7:10 PM.

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                  • #10
                    emcon5
                    Veteran Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 3347

                    Originally posted by TRAP55
                    Excellent summary, which one ya going to build now?
                    Actually leaning toward a high turret. I got a AR 1942 Barreled Action from Rguns before they ran out, keeping my options open, and I have a couple old steel Tube Weaver K4s that wouldn't look out of place.

                    The price of admission is pretty high though, a split-ring High Turret from Accumounts is $250 for the mount alone, not counting the expense of getting it properly mounted, plus I still need a stock and handguard.

                    I could roll the dice on one of the Chinese repro ZF39s for ~$100 more and get a scope as well.



                    Originally posted by Jarhead
                    You will need more than one book if your a serious student of the German WW2 Sniper rifles

                    http://www.accumounts.com/
                    Don't really need to get any deeper, all I wanted was an overview, and when I got it, I figured I would share with the class, so to speak. It is not meant to be all inclusive. Feel free to add more if you so desire.

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