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  • TRAP55
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2008
    • 5536

    Bad eyes and iron sights?

    My vision has been getting worse this last year, and my iron sighted rifles weren't hitting where I was aiming, when I could see the sights, so I went to the eye doc.
    Once I realized my eye doc was referring me to her buddies, so they all could have a bite of my insurance, I picked out the best laser eye surgery doc I could find, and made an appointment. It was an "eye opening" experience to say the least, pun intended.
    Back in '97, I had a hospital supply cart loaded with 1500lbs of saline, roll down from the front of a 45ft trailer at about 10mph when it hit me. I was standing near the end of the trailer handing off another cart to the guy that was helping me. Never saw the one coming at me until I started to turn to my right, then lights out. Besides being knocked out, broken nose, dislocated jaw, and facial lacerations, it tore the vitrius in the back of my eyes from the impact. That gave me "floaters", and when I get tired, it's like having a couple of gnats flying around in front of your face.
    The "previously overlooked" damage it did, was to the cornea in my right eye. When the doc is looking at a topographical map of your cornea, and says " This is interesting, I've never seen anything like this, how the hell do you see out of that eye?", it makes you a little nervous. The cornea had a very pronounced "plateau", like a table top mountain just off center. My pupil was small enough to adjust to seeing partially around it. With the right eye working so hard to see, my left took over as dominate. That's the bad news, kinda.
    The good news is, my cornea is thick enough to allow for 3-4 laser corrections, "IF" that ever became necessary. He told me when I walk out of his office after treatment, I will have 20/20 vision.
    When I voiced my concern about my right eye getting the dominance back so I could shoot iron sights again, he did a test to show me I had nothing to worry about.
    The usual procedure is to do "Mono Vision" correction, where one eye is adjusted for far sight, and the other to near sight. He didn't recommend that because I drive truck, and it could be a problem. He showed me what that would be like, with a pair of "try on" glasses. But first he switched the lenses. I felt like I was on a carnival ride when I stood up. When he switched them back, I could see like I did 30yrs ago. He told me that was because my brain was hardwired for my right eye to be dominate, and as soon as I have 20/20 in both eyes again, it will be once again!
    One more appointment on the 24th to get precise measurements for the computer, and most likely the 10th for the surgery.
    Anyone have this done, and did it make an improvement shooting your iron sighted milsurps? How about the Mono Vision?
  • #2
    OldShooter32
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 2051

    I had LASIK about five years ago and it is amazing. It has helped my shooting, though at 63 I will never have the flexible lens necessary to be a good iron sight shooter. I went from heavy correction to 20-20, almost 20-15. The procedure is simple and the only "pain" was staring into a bright light for a few seconds. No recovery issues, though my daughter said hers felt as if she had a hair in her eye for a few hours. I had no discomfort and four days later was "cured" of glasses I had worn for 50 years.
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    • #3
      Mustang
      Calguns Addict
      • Aug 2007
      • 5055

      Trap, I haven't had surgery done on my eyes, but a word on monovision...

      The FAA (I have a Commercial/Instrument ticket) does not allow the use of monovision contact lenses for several reasons, the first being that with monovision, you no longer have 20/20 distance vision in one of your eyes. While this is somewhat different than monovision lasik, consider this: If you have one of your eyes permanently burned to be close vision only, you will be permanently out of any job that requires 20/20 vision in both eyes.

      Think about this also...if you do go with monovision lasik, what if something happens to your distant vision eye? You want to go through life with one eye permanently focused at 18"?

      The other problem the FAA has with monovision lenses is the depth perception problems. Several aviation accidents have been attributed to pilots using the monovision lenses and having difficulty judging their height above the runway. That same phenomenon may effect your driving.
      Last edited by Mustang; 09-22-2012, 10:59 AM.
      ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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      • #4
        hylander
        Veteran Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 3850

        All I can say is I'm Jealous
        I have been wanting Laser surgery for years.
        With my glasses I can see a distance very well, but with that I can not see the sights clear enough to get a good sight picture
        Failure is not an Option

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        • #5
          TRAP55
          Calguns Addict
          • Jul 2008
          • 5536

          The other problem the FAA has with monovision lenses is the depth perception problems. Several aviation accidents have been attributed to pilots using the monovision lenses and having difficulty judging their height above the runway. That same phenomenon may effect your driving.
          Mustang, that's how it was explained to me too, and I don't need that trying to judge where the back of a 48' trailer is, while trying to navigate through a parking lot full of cars. Although that would be fun, it probably wouldn't help much to further my employment.
          OldShooter, I let the wife be the guinea pig first a few years ago, and she had the PRK? lazer where they reshape the cornea without cutting the flap. LazikPlus did it, and they didn't explain the risk of a thin cornea, she's damned lucky they didn't blind her. That type gives the burn like an arc welding "flash", so you have that feeling of sand in your eyes for awhile. She handles pain much better than I do, so after hearing her complaining about how it hurt, I chickened out.

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          • #6
            TRAP55
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2008
            • 5536

            Originally posted by hylander
            All I can say is I'm Jealous
            I have been wanting Laser surgery for years.
            With my glasses I can see a distance very well, but with that I can not see the sights clear enough to get a good sight picture
            That's about where I am at too. The eye dominance thing has really messed me up, I can't shoot left handed any better than I can write left handed. I feel like a fool now after it dawned on me that I was adjusting sights for windage on rifles that were already sighted in!

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            • #7
              Flyin Brian
              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
              • Oct 2009
              • 3395

              I tried to get LASIK but my corneas are too thin so I ended up getting the phakic IOL which is a lens implanted behind the cornea. I've had them 6 years and it has been one of the best things ever.

              BTW, have any of you ever tried a shooting aperture that you wear on your glasses? I've been using one that I got from Kari Prager a few years ago and I am thinking about getting an adjustable one now to compensate for varying light conditions.
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              • #8
                cruddymutt
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1589

                This is interesting. I am right handed but left eye dominant. Dont know if Ive always been but I only noticed it recently with shooting. In fact I shoot pistols right handed but with my left eye. May have to look into this surgury. I wore glasses as a kid but then didnt for almost 20 years. Ive recently started wearing them again about 3 years ago.
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                • #9
                  TRAP55
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 5536

                  I ended up getting the phakic IOL which is a lens implanted behind the cornea
                  Brian, an older friend of mine had that done two years ago. When he was hitting empty .410 hulls with his .22 rifle, that I couldn't even see, I made up my mind I was getting my eyes fixed!

                  cruddymutt, when I tried on those lenses, I couldn't believe the difference. I think the real shocker was seeing how bad my vision had got, and how it snuck up on me.
                  After I get this done, I'm going to have to dust off the Trap gun and see if I can still whup my kid in a round of Trap.

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                  • #10
                    TRAP55
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 5536

                    Today the is the day, I'm nervous as a long tailed cat in a room full of rocking chairs. Wish me luck!

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                    • #11
                      emcon5
                      Veteran Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 3347

                      Thinking happy thoughts for you Dave.

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                      • #12
                        Mustang
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 5055

                        Good luck, Trap
                        ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                        • #13
                          TRAP55
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 5536

                          success, thanks guys!
                          Not suppose to be on here, so the looking tru wax paper effect will be gone in the morning. Quick and easy, only pain was some sting from the eyedrops, really feel like a wuss now.

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                          • #14
                            GMG
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 7974

                            Great news Dave !
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