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  • arslin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 515

    slugged my mosin for reloading

    Hello-

    I am starting to reloading. I am starting with the 54R for 2 reasons. A) I have more option for ranges when I shoot something other than the crap ton of surplus ammo I have. B) I want to get my accuracy up and try for 300+ yards shooting. It is not for cost... I have 2 spam cans of cheap ammo.

    I just slugged my mosin, and to my surprise, it came out at 308 (I took a picture to prove to myself), and not 311 like many people talk about. Some say that is a good omen for a mosin that has not seen a lot of use. Is that correct?

    Does that mean that I can use the more available 308 bullets?

    Lastly: Any cocktails that people would recommend? I think i would like to stick to the 150g bullet, but I'm game for anything that works for precision. The dies should get here this week, but I have not purchased any components.
    "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
    -MLK

    "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
    -Gandhi
  • #2
    jeffsenpai
    Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 400

    How do you "slug" your mosin? I have heard the term, but do not know what it means/entails

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    • #3
      arslin
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 515

      It is where you take a fishing weight and push it down the barrel. The resulting marred up hunk of lead can be measured so that you know the size of your bore.

      "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
      -MLK

      "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
      -Gandhi

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      • #4
        sixoclockhold
        Banned
        • Jul 2012
        • 4040

        Originally posted by arslin
        Hello-

        I am starting to reloading. I am starting with the 54R for 2 reasons. A) I have more option for ranges when I shoot something other than the crap ton of surplus ammo I have. B) I want to get my accuracy up and try for 300+ yards shooting. It is not for cost... I have 2 spam cans of cheap ammo.

        I just slugged my mosin, and to my surprise, it came out at 308 (I took a picture to prove to myself), and not 311 like many people talk about. Some say that is a good omen for a mosin that has not seen a lot of use. Is that correct?

        Does that mean that I can use the more available 308 bullets?

        Lastly: Any cocktails that people would recommend? I think i would like to stick to the 150g bullet, but I'm game for anything that works for precision. The dies should get here this week, but I have not purchased any components.
        What model Mosin do you have? Here are the specs, I'm sure tolerances were at least +/- .001



        You should be ok shooting the .308 diameter bullets

        I might note, if you have 00 shotgun shells at home, you can take one of the shots and grease it up. They are a perfect snug fit for Slugging.

        http://www.hodgdon.com/basic-manual-inquiry.html Hodgdon website will have the data your looking for proper loads.
        Last edited by sixoclockhold; 08-28-2012, 11:46 AM.

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        • #5
          Vlad 11
          Veteran Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 2961

          Ive never seen a Russian Mosin that slugs less than .311 groove

          Yea 00 buckshot works great for slugs

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          • #6
            sixoclockhold
            Banned
            • Jul 2012
            • 4040

            I would think any primer would be fine. I just use CCI. As far as powder I buy 8 lbs. of Hodgdon H 4895, its a little faster burning than Varget and has been around a loooong time. It also carries the ability to make "youth" loads or 60% of max recommended grains where most powders don't. This could come in handy if you go to plated bullets or reduced loads in other rifles.

            The higher the coefficient of a bullet the straighter it should shoot. I like speer hot core.

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            • #7
              sixoclockhold
              Banned
              • Jul 2012
              • 4040

              Originally posted by Vlad 11
              Ive never seen a Russian Mosin that slugs less than .311 groove

              Yea 00 buckshot works great for slugs
              Thats why I asked him, he probably has a Finn

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              • #8
                Agustav
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 1172

                and make sure you are measuring the groove diameter...

                Even for Finn, 308 groove diameter is pretty rare (My Finn M91, M91/30, M28, and M39 all slug out to >.309)!

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                • #9
                  arslin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 515

                  it is a 1942 izzy 91/30.

                  basically... I'm measuring the widest spot.
                  Last edited by arslin; 08-28-2012, 12:58 PM.
                  "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
                  -MLK

                  "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
                  -Gandhi

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                  • #10
                    mosinnagantm9130
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2009
                    • 8782

                    The lowest I've seen a Russian 91/30 slug was .309, so it's possible. You can use .308 bullets.
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                    • #11
                      arslin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 515

                      Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
                      The lowest I've seen a Russian 91/30 slug was .309, so it's possible. You can use .308 bullets.
                      so is it that low by mistake, or is that all Mosins were at one time .308, and have worn down to an average of .311.
                      "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
                      -MLK

                      "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
                      -Gandhi

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                      • #12
                        sixoclockhold
                        Banned
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 4040

                        Did you buy it from a dealer?

                        Always possible the grooves are full of lead as in someone leaded up the barrel and sold it.

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                        • #13
                          arslin
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 515

                          Originally posted by sixoclockhold
                          Did you buy it from a dealer?

                          Always possible the grooves are full of lead as in someone leaded up the barrel and sold it.
                          It was a big five special about 9 months ago.
                          "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
                          -MLK

                          "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
                          -Gandhi

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                          • #14
                            sixoclockhold
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 4040

                            Originally posted by arslin
                            It was a big five special about 9 months ago.
                            Ok good. When you slug the bore there is a drag or tightness as you push the slug through. Was it consistent more or less or areas of tightness. Might want to do it again. You might have some copper fouling build up near the chamber so give it a good clean and looksie. If all good, reload and shoot those .308's, good score.

                            Remember the slug is only measuring the tightest area of the barrel.
                            Last edited by sixoclockhold; 08-28-2012, 2:56 PM. Reason: spell ck

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                            • #15
                              arslin
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2011
                              • 515

                              It was very tight at the muzzle (very tight actually) , and I do not see anything in the bore. I think the tightness was that I had fattened the plug up a little (as the tutorial said to) and at the muzzle it was a little too big.
                              "One has not only a legal but a moral responsibility to obey just laws. Conversely, one has a moral responsibility to disobey unjust laws."
                              -MLK

                              "Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest."
                              -Gandhi

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