PU Sniper Question - PHOTOS ADDED

[interstellar]

Is it possible to have 1939R Izzy with SA and D marks, Russian State (pcfcp) cartouche on the stock and a PU scope with none of the serial numbers matching (scrubbed bolt) and still be legit PU sniper? This is an early CAI VT import.

[John Browning]

No. PU snipers didn't come about until late 1942.

[interstellar]

Yea, I know that, but the barrel marks suggest it was rearsenalled - notice the 6 numbers above the woodline - common on snipers.

[interstellar]

[Flyin Brian]

Yea, I know that, but the barrel marks suggest it was rearsenalled - notice the 6 numbers above the woodline - common on snipers.

In this instance, those numbers have nothing to do with the fact that it is scoped, those numbers were added by the importer as an attempted translation of the Cyrillic characters used in the Soviet serial number. Y is an "OO" sound as in "shoot" and Ю is similar to "OU" as in "youth" so they mistakenly used the OO again. (actually it looks like they used "YOO")

Also, these characters are stamped on the receiver, not the barrel. Izhevsk snipers sometimes had the scope number stamped on the left barrel shank above the woodline.

[interstellar]

It still doesn't make sense why someone would take a captured SA, restock it, tap it and add a scope.

[NOTABIKER]

i think some things they did we will never understand. looks like the real deal to me. they claim they only used production line rifles to make PUs ???.

[Flyin Brian]

It still doesn't make sense why someone would take a captured SA, restock it, tap it and add a scope.

Century Arms International (CAI) imported some of the earliest sniper rifles as well as a huge cache of original bases, mounts and scopes. They cobbled together thousands of "reproduction" snipers and most of them were made using Finnish captured 91-30s with the [SA] Finn property stamp. The good thing is that your scope and mount are probably authentic, but your rifle is NOT an authentic sniper. As Scobun already stated, the 91-30 PU was not created until late 1942, so a 1939 PU is not real no matter what.

A genuine PU scope and mount used to be worth $350 or so but the recent import and sale of thousands of authentic snipers is probably going to have a negative effect on the values of PU scopes/mounts. Supply is going higher and demand is definitely lower since you can buy a real sniper for $580... it makes no sense now to try and "restore" an ex-sniper, so the authentic scopes are going to be in less demand.

As a shooter, it's probably a fun rifle, regardless of it's history.

[interstellar]

So you don't think it's worth picking up an ex-sniper without a scope and retap it to put the scope on it and restock the captured finn?

[mosinnagantm9130]

So you don't think it's worth picking up an ex-sniper without a scope and retap it to put the scope on it and restock the captured finn?

I don't. The ex-sniper still won't be an original sniper anymore, and the Finn will still have D&T holes.

[NOTABIKER]

is it a fake mount if the big locking bolt does not have fine threads. or did they use more than one type thread. sorry if i describe the name of that big thread bolt wrong. thanks.