CA + C&R w/ COE + Registration = ???

[TacticalPlinker]

From my understanding, and correct me if I'm wrong, but with a C&R+COE, I can purchase from out of state (say J&G), a Mosin Revolver (or any C&R handgun), and by pass having to send it to an FFL and do the whole DROS+10 day wait thing (plus the transfer fee).

But what about registration? Would I need to use that DOJ registration form with the $19 for a C&R handgun bought from out of state with a C&R+COE? And will there be a similar deal for long guns after Jan. 1, 2014?

And what about in state purchases (w/ C&R+COE) for both long guns and handguns now and after Jan. 1, 2014?

This f'ing government is so damn confusing. I have no idea what is legal and what is not.

[zinfull]

You are correct about a pistol if you buy it while your are out of state.

Jerry

[EOD Guy]

You don't need the COE to purchase while out of State.

[littlejake]

If the OP question is: can it be shipped directly to a C&R+COE holder in CA (that's how I read it), the answer is NO. Must be shipped to a CA dealer, then DROS'ed -- the C&R+COE allows one to skip the 10day wait.

If buying OOS -- i.e. -- taking possession in another state, then only a C&R license is required. You must file a form with DOJ upon return to the state to "register" the handgun.

Frankly, the C&R is nearly useless in CA because of CA laws. And, for getting fingerprinted and background checked every year, the COE doesn't add much.

[timdps]

Frankly, the C&R is nearly useless in CA because of CA laws.

For handguns yeah, but having C&R long guns shipped to your door is very, very cool...

And, for getting fingerprinted and background checked every year, the COE doesn't add much.

COE yearly renewal is just a $22 fee - no additional fingerprint and background check stuff.

Tim

[TheExpertish]

If the OP question is: can it be shipped directly to a C&R+COE holder in CA (that's how I read it), the answer is NO. Must be shipped to a CA dealer, then DROS'ed -- the C&R+COE allows one to skip the 10day wait.

If buying OOS -- i.e. -- taking possession in another state, then only a C&R license is required. You must file a form with DOJ upon return to the state to "register" the handgun.

Frankly, the C&R is nearly useless in CA because of CA laws. And, for getting fingerprinted and background checked every year, the COE doesn't add much.

Sadly the for C&R handguns the C&R+COE waiver on the 10 day wait was repealed back in April, IRRC. C&R and COE or not, we have to wait like everyone else.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Sadly the for C&R handguns the C&R+COE waiver on the 10 day wait was repealed back in April, IRRC. C&R and COE or not, we have to wait like everyone else.

Which bill repealed it? There was no talk of this bill on the forum?

[littlejake]

"...COE yearly renewal is just a $22 fee - no additional fingerprint and background check stuff."

Tim

No fingerprints if you renew up to 12 months late (I found that out personally.)

However, during a renewal process, they will process you through the CA prohibited armed person registry plus run federal NICS. So, whether you buy something or not, you're consenting to an annual background check if you keep your COE current.

My point is: for that, there should be more things waived: How about no 10 day wait on any firearm if you have a COE...

[Flyin Brian]

Which bill repealed it? There was no talk of this bill on the forum?

It's still listed on the CG Wiki: http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Cu...sed_Collectors

So I guess "Expertish" is not really an expert!! Who knew?

[ColdDeadHands1]

Sadly the for C&R handguns the C&R+COE waiver on the 10 day wait was repealed back in April, IRRC. C&R and COE or not, we have to wait like everyone else.

No sir. Deployed my C&R + COE for 10 day wait exemptions several times since April!

[TRICKSTER]

Sadly the for C&R handguns the C&R+COE waiver on the 10 day wait was repealed back in April, IRRC. C&R and COE or not, we have to wait like everyone else.

The post that you have made is incorrect as posted.
Please do some research and try again.

[TheExpertish]

No sir. Deployed my C&R + COE for 10 day wait exemptions several times since April!

Okay, found it. Apparently I misunderstood and the ruling was overruled before it was suppose to go into effect?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=8633420

[BLR81]

If the OP question is: can it be shipped directly to a C&R+COE holder in CA (that's how I read it), the answer is NO. Must be shipped to a CA dealer, then DROS'ed -- the C&R+COE allows one to skip the 10day wait.

If buying OOS -- i.e. -- taking possession in another state, then only a C&R license is required. You must file a form with DOJ upon return to the state to "register" the handgun.

Frankly, the C&R is nearly useless in CA because of CA laws. And, for getting fingerprinted and background checked every year, the COE doesn't add much.

To get this straight in my mind, I can buy a C&R handgun in person out of state, stick it in my luggage, and fly home with it. Upon getting home, I have to register it with the DOJ and pay the fee.

If I purchase it other than in person, I have to send it to a Dealer pay him a fee, he registers it with the DOJ and I pay the fee, and unless I have a CoE I have to wait for 10 days.

Now, is this valid if I buy from another out of state C&R ffl or just dealers?

[watsonville]

i thought no handgun purchases out of state,this info is new to me a polish p64 isnt looking so bad now

[Mssr. Eleganté]

To get this straight in my mind, I can buy a C&R handgun in person out of state, stick it in my luggage, and fly home with it. Upon getting home, I have to register it with the DOJ and pay the fee.

Correct. A C&R FFL can acquire C&R handguns and C&R long guns of any age while physically outside of California and then register the handguns for $19 each by sending in the C&R Handgun Report to CalDOJ within five days of returning to California.

If I purchase it other than in person, I have to send it to a Dealer pay him a fee, he registers it with the DOJ and I pay the fee, and unless I have a CoE I have to wait for 10 days.

Correct. Have it shipped to a California dealer, pay whatever fee he wants, pay the DROS, and then wait 10 days to pick it up. And yes, you can skip the 10 day wait if you also have a COE.

Now, is this valid if I buy from another out of state C&R ffl or just dealers?

It doesn't matter who the seller is. You can buy from private parties and other FFLs. If you are having something shipped to a California dealer then that dealer might have a company policy of only receiving shipments from other FFLs.