Mosin ''Obrez'' - Possible Project?

[FourTenJaeger]

Before being deemed to Mosin-Nagant Hell for cutting up a mosin, This project would be executed on an already-bubba'd rifle.

Has anyone ever done this before, And how did the results come out? If anyone has ever seen ''A Cold summer of 1953'', Im thinking of that type of Obrez. Partial Stock left, Not fully cut down to pistol grip. Assuming the stock and Barrel are shortened enough, I don't believe it would constitute as an SBR, due to the inability of the stock to be used, As a stock. Such as on a Mare's leg lever action.

EDIT: Here's what Im going for:

[senorpeligro]

I think this is an NFA item?

[meaty-btz]

nope, re-milling a demilled receiver from two or more guns properly decommissioned as per BATF specs would make it an "other".
Its been done here.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Here's the thread where a calgunner chronicles his Obrez project...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=518164

It looks like another calgunner who responded in that thread also has one.

nope, re-milling a demilled receiver from two or more guns properly decommissioned as per BATF specs would make it an "other".

It has to be at least 26 inches long to be an "other". Making an Obrez from properly demilled Mosin-Nagant receivers would be a "handgun". Oh wait, you are just talking about the receiver being an "other" after you reweld it but before you turn it into a handgun.

[ke6guj]

you can't take a MN and cut it down to <26" OAL or with a <16" barrel. To do so would create and SBR. It doesn't matter if the stock "can't be used". If it started as a rifle and you go below those numbers, it is an SBR.

Now, you can manufacture your own MN reciever and build it up as an Obrez wiithout creating an SBR.

[ke6guj]

nope, re-milling a demilled receiver from two or more guns properly decommissioned as per BATF specs would make it an "other".
Its been done here.

the OP did not mention demilling the receiver by cutting it up. I read his "cutting up a Mosin" to mean cutting the barrel and stock, not the action.

[FourTenJaeger]

So to make my Obrez Bastard, I must churn out a new reciever. Thank you.

[meaty-btz]

So to make my Obrez Bastard, I must churn out a new reciever. Thank you.

New receiver or a re-mill which the receiver starts as "other" and then is built as a pistol.

That is the process. Even then, you will be at risk for an over interested "law" person.

[cruddymutt]

What kind of proof would one need to present that the receiver had been cut prior to the reweld? Does a person need to carry photos of the cut receiver? I see problems if LEO want to make problems.

[kris smith]

There should be obvious weld marks on the reciver where you melte and filled the two peices back together

[ke6guj]

There should be obvious weld marks on the reciver where you melte and filled the two peices back together

with a good weld properly dressed down, it could be hard to see obvious weld marks.

[cruddymutt]

with a good weld properly dressed down, it could be hard to see obvious weld marks.

Ive never welded a receiver but Ive welded items that after I weld, grind, polish and paint you couldnt see it.

[AJAX22]

I left the welds visible on the cockweasle just to avoid hassles

[John Browning]

Game changer?

[foesgth]

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