M1944 Refurb Questions

[senorpeligro]

Last year I ordered a M44 Mosin Nagant carbine from SOG during their Holiday sale. It came with a broken trigger screw (which I fixed) and there is very little paint on the stock butt plate but other than that it's real nice. I knew it was 1944 numbers matching but I can't find a refurb mark on it anywhere. How lucky did I get?

UPDATE: not very, but I did learn a bunch about the refurb process! Thanks everyone.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Just because it wasn't refurb marked doesn't mean it wasn't refurbed. Pics?

[senorpeligro]

The wood is really nice, not the flaky shellac I have on my 1942 91/30.

[senorpeligro]

What do you guys think? There's no wood or metal refurb marks that I can find.

[Vlad 11]

To me it looks like refurb bluing. But the pics are a bit blurry so ....

The absence of the official refurb stamps doesn't necessarily make it in original condition

[mosinnagantm9130]

Hard to tell based off those pics.

What is the wood finish?

[senorpeligro]

I'll try to get some better pics with a real camera.

The wood finish is... like a thin coat of satin wood stain.

[Bobby Ricigliano]

I like it! An M44 is on my short list. Nice rifle!

[Fishslayer]

Original, refurb, whatever. I like the stock. Probably not original finish, but I'm not a collector & think it looks pretty nice.

[m1a1driver]

I have a non-refub M44. and its totally obvious, no refurb markings, no shellac, no paint, and the metal bluing is absolutely 0%. Looks like it was dragged around for decades...awesome looking

[senorpeligro]

I have a non-refub M44. and its totally obvious, no refurb markings, no shellac, no paint, and the metal bluing is absolutely 0%. Looks like it was dragged around for decades...awesome looking

Wow, that's awesome!

Mine is really clean so that probably suggests it has been refurbed.

[mosinnagantm9130]

Mine is really clean so that probably suggests it has been refurbed.

Not necessarily. I've got a near new 46 Izhevsk that I don't think ever got refurbed. The bolt was replaced at some point though, I think it's probably an armorers replacement but that's just speculation on my part.

Your rifle is kinda tough, I can't tell if it went through refurb or not based on those pics.

[senorpeligro]

So... not original. Thanks.

[senorpeligro]

Not necessarily. I've got a near new 46 Izhevsk that I don't think ever got refurbed. The bolt was replaced at some point though, I think it's probably an armorers replacement but that's just speculation on my part.

Your rifle is kinda tough, I can't tell if it went through refurb or not based on those pics.

I'll see if i can improve on those shots, using a real camera.

[mosinnagantm9130]

It's been refurbed at some time, perhaps by the Albanians, as it is in a beat up Polish beech stock. Senor Peligro's rifle looks like it is in a post-war stock with the dovetailed in toe piece, and since it's not a wartime laminated stock, the finish is also incorrect for an original WW2 rifle.

How can you tell it's a Pole stock? Beech wood isn't unique to polish rifles.

Didn't the stocks with the pressed sling slots start production in 1944?