polish pps-43c

[comblock]

any reason why this is not california legal or C&R. Its a pistol, its semiauto and originally built in 1943.

[ZachT951]

no way of making it a fixed mag pistol, and it would have to be SSE'd, same rules would apply as if it were a draco, other than that im not sure, find youself a dealer that will accept it as a AW then have them change it to a CA compliant version, also you would have to make them into 10 round mags, that and importing the mags as a parts kit might be pretty difficult, just my 2 cents

[Jeepers]

any reason why this is not california legal or C&R. Its a pistol, its semiauto and originally built in 1943.

the orig FA build of these where 1943, the S/A is a rebuild and new manufacturer not C&R and on that note it can be made ca legal like all pistols just follow the chart and SSE exemption ....

[comblock]

ahhh thanks, I was not thinking through the SSE path. I was just fixated towards the C&R path.

[ClarenceBoddicker]

Don't confuse the Federal or CA C&R laws with machine guns, even though some machine guns are on the ATF C&R list. A citizen (non Dealer/LE) legal machine gun had to have been registered during it's original manufacture, if DEWATED (DEactivated WAr Trophy) with papers in the 1940's-1950's, legally imported before the 1968 GCA, 1968 Amnesty registered tax free, or registered and manufactured by a citizen before the 5/19/1986 FOPA ban. C&R guns have to be in their original configuration. As the PPS-43 is foregin, it had to be imported before 1968. Very few were. Most transferable ones are either REWATTED (a DEWAT made live with a $200 tax), 1968 Amnesty registered or a pre 1986 gun built from a parts set. A REWATTED or post 1968 built gun is not original & can't be a C&R machine gun.

NFA laws come first, then the C&R regulations. CA has not allowed regular citizens to own machine guns since at least the late 1960's.

[dfletcher]

no way of making it a fixed mag pistol, and it would have to be SSE'd, same rules would apply as if it were a draco, other than that im not sure, find youself a dealer that will accept it as a AW then have them change it to a CA compliant version, also you would have to make them into 10 round mags, that and importing the mags as a parts kit might be pretty difficult, just my 2 cents

They can be made as fixed mag. River City Gun Exchange has them, I bought one a few months back. The mag release cover is kind of tough to describe - kind of a "U" shaped collar with an opening in the back that slides horizontally over the mag housing and set screwed in place. It's a PITA to use because the mag release has wings, isn't a solid piece of metal, and you have to press the tip of your BB device against that skinny edge to pop out the mag. And the mags I had were a tight fit.

I bought mine a few months back, used it a few times in OR with the 36 round mags and no BB - it sure does put out alot of rounds and is fun. But in CA with the 10 round mags and difficult to use mag release it loses a bit. Good news is that when I went to put it on consignment as soon as I whipped it out there were 3 guys doing the "How much, I want ...." bit and the gun store was nice enough to allow us to do a PPT instead of consignment. So if someone buys and doesn't like I'd bet it's a quick resell.