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  • flak88mm
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 892

    Get new springs or not for my M1 Carbine?

    I haven't shot this yet but want to know if I should upgrade all the springs or stick to what it has already.

    I have an Inland 44 manufactured carbine, and want to see people's experiences with upgraded springs (recoil, trigger, etc) if the rifle functioned better or not (what are the pros and cons). Here is a link to some wolf springs I've been looking at http://www.gunsprings.com/index.cfm?...D=2&mID=98#533

    The recoil spring says Extra Power, is there any benefit with an extra power recoil spring?

    Also what else should I retrofit? I want this to be a reliable rifle when I need it to be (no jams, etc), especially for self defense. I put my AK in my gun safe (which was my primary self defense gun until I bought the carbine).
    Last edited by flak88mm; 07-07-2012, 3:00 PM.
  • #2
    IrishJoe3
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 3804

    I'd say shoot it, and if it aint broke, don't fix it. My inland '44 shoots like a champ with all origional springs/parts.

    Why would you use a classic piece of history for a dedicated selfe defense rifle? I would suggest dedicating a replacable rifle for that purpose. If you had to shoot someone, even if it was completely legitimate, your rifle will be booked into evidence in the condition it is in and will not be touched. Meaning if your rifle gets wet, or gets blood on it or something, it will be destroyed when, a year and half+ later, you get it back.

    Use a Mini 30 or something, something that can be written off and replaced.
    Urban legends are a poor basis for making public policy.

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    • #3
      Sailormilan2
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 3452

      If you decide to change springs, stay away from Wolf springs. Last Wolf spring I used was a hammer spring and it was 1/4" too long, and caused numerous failures.
      Wolf extra power springs are known to cause problems in Garands, though I don't know what an extra power slide spring would do to a Carbine.
      Orion 7 carries goods springs for Garands, which I have used. I don't know how their M1 Carbine springs are, but I suspect they would be good.

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      • #4
        JAGGUY
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 1533

        I always replace recoil springs in newly acquired semi auto mil-surps with new original style springs.
        No one knows what condition those springs are in and it's cheap insurance.

        When I got my CMP Inland carbine I pulled it apart and the recoil spring had been wet at some point and was rusted inside the recess where it fits.
        Glad I looked before I shot it.....

        Like I said, cheap insurance for old guns.
        1A-2A=-1A

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        • #5
          echo884
          Member
          • May 2009
          • 422

          Wish I saw this before. I got the Wolff springs kit and can confirm that the hammer spring and safety plunger spring do NOT fit. The extractor spring is questionable. I'm going to fire it tomorrow and see. If I'd do it again, I'd get the kit from Orion 7 or someplace else.

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          • #6
            bohoki
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 20815

            30 carbine spring always feels weak as long as it is poweful enough to strip a round out of a mag its good to go

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            • #7
              microwaveguy
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 2103

              I would try shooting it first and see what happens.

              I do have a M1 carbine that didn't like USGI recoil springs but works great on the extra power spring.
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              • #8
                smoothy8500
                Veteran Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 3846

                I ended up replacing my ejector and extractor springs in my 1942 Inland. It made a huge difference.

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                • #9
                  Full Clip
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 10260

                  Arg, I'm getting light hammer strikes and just bought a Wolff spring kit for my Inland. Now I read this... Damn!

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                  • #10
                    mls343
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 1543

                    I've never had to replace anything on any of my M1 carbines. I say field strip it, lubricate as required, and shoot away. They are a tough little system (even though some state the extractor is the weak link...), and I've never had any problems over the last 40+ years of shooting them.
                    Next to me in the blackness lay my oiled blue steel beauty. The greatest Christmas gift I had ever received, or would ever receive. Gradually, I drifted off to sleep, pringing ducks on the wing and getting off spectacular hip shots.
                    - Ralphie from "A Christmas Story"

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