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  • #16
    Agustav
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2008
    • 1172

    I am surprised that 03A3 is not mentioned here... good accuracy and most importantly one of the best sight during that era.

    My M96 come close second due to great cartridge and longer sight radius.

    However when it comes to these old boys, condition of the firearm trump everything else!

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    • #17
      CEDaytonaRydr
      Veteran Member
      • Feb 2010
      • 4108

      Well, not WWII, but one of my most accurate C&Rs is my 1898 Krag. Until I got my K31, is was the most accurate C&R I had. It pales in comparison to the K31 in terms of accuracy.

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      • #18
        SKSer45
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2011
        • 4373

        Originally posted by Agustav
        I am surprised that 03A3 is not mentioned here... good accuracy and most importantly one of the best sight during that era.

        My M96 come close second due to great cartridge and longer sight radius.

        However when it comes to these old boys, condition of the firearm trump everything else!
        I did

        2. 98k Mauser/1903 Sringfield. Same thing right?

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        • #19
          eighteenninetytwo
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2008
          • 1541

          Wish people would stop calling the K31 a WW2 rifle. It is if you count being 'used' to guard a chalet full of Swiss Miss by Lake Geneva for a few weeks. Otherwise there are reasons that other milsurps are more often beaten and battered, because they've been through deserts, snow ice blood and mud, where cleaning is very much second in priority to staying alive.

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          • #20
            SKSer45
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 4373

            Originally posted by eighteenninetytwo
            Wish people would stop calling the K31 a WW2 rifle. It is if you count being 'used' to guard a chalet full of Swiss Miss by Lake Geneva for a few weeks. Otherwise there are reasons that other milsurps are more often beaten and battered, because they've been through deserts, snow ice blood and mud, where cleaning is very much second in priority to staying alive.
            yeah that is the only downside of the k31. Its a nice rifle and shoots great, just never saw a second of action. Hell even the old Steyrs Strait Bolts saw action and were used by the German Army for 2nd line troops and police forces.

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            • #21
              Mutant
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2009
              • 828

              Originally posted by eighteenninetytwo
              Wish people would stop calling the K31 a WW2 rifle. It is if you count being 'used' to guard a chalet full of Swiss Miss by Lake Geneva for a few weeks. Otherwise there are reasons that other milsurps are more often beaten and battered, because they've been through deserts, snow ice blood and mud, where cleaning is very much second in priority to staying alive.
              Part of the reason the Swiss rifles did not see action was because they existed. You can't say a hydrogen bomb is not effective because it wasn't dropped. Well, I guess you could say that but you might not want to sit on an island where one was being tested.

              I go with Rojo's list exactly as written.
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              • #22
                Low-Pressure
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2009
                • 1758

                Originally posted by eighteenninetytwo
                Wish people would stop calling the K31 a WW2 rifle. It is if you count being 'used' to guard a chalet full of Swiss Miss by Lake Geneva for a few weeks. Otherwise there are reasons that other milsurps are more often beaten and battered, because they've been through deserts, snow ice blood and mud, where cleaning is very much second in priority to staying alive.
                The K-31 was around the WW2 era, which means it is a WW2 era weapon. It's kinda like saying the Honda N600 is not a 70's car, when it was around during that time.
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                • #23
                  filric48
                  Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 324

                  K31 every time I take it to the range I'm amazed.

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                  • #24
                    POLICESTATE
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                    • Apr 2009
                    • 18185

                    I miss my Enfield No 4 Mk 2

                    Accurate, smooth bolt operation, good looking rifle. Weird ammo :P
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                    • #25
                      CEDaytonaRydr
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 4108

                      Originally posted by eighteenninetytwo
                      Wish people would stop calling the K31 a WW2 rifle. It is if you count being 'used' to guard a chalet full of Swiss Miss by Lake Geneva for a few weeks. Otherwise there are reasons that other milsurps are more often beaten and battered, because they've been through deserts, snow ice blood and mud, where cleaning is very much second in priority to staying alive.
                      I think what the OP meant was "WW-II Era" rifle. Let's not get too bent on semantics...

                      ...and for the record, there's a reason why no one invades the Swiss.

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                      • #26
                        7.62x63mmUS
                        Member
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 447

                        Originally posted by ptmccain
                        My most accurate WWII era bolt action is my Mauser.

                        The sights are a royal pain to use, but....the rifle is dead on accurate.
                        What model Mauser?

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                        • #27
                          Mustang
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Aug 2007
                          • 5008

                          Originally posted by Beetle Bailey
                          This really is a YMMV type of thing.
                          Hear, Hear

                          I've found that with diligent load testing, my Swiss G1911 is my most accurate "WWI/WWII era" rifle.



                          But my M39's aren't far behind. (44.5 grains 4064 with 174 gr .3105 Hornady BTFMJ--high and low shots were fired trying to get on the bullseye...last 4 were grouped)




                          And my 09 Argentine shoots great with 174 gr SMK's and 40 grains of 4064
                          (First 4 rounds were high, I believe, because the bullets were seated too deeply--took 4 bullet seatings to get it at book length COL of 2.875)





                          I haven't handloaded for my Swedish Mauser...so it is possible that it is the most accurate.
                          ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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                          • #28
                            CEDaytonaRydr
                            Veteran Member
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 4108

                            Originally posted by Mustang


                            People, THIS is why you handload... ^^^

                            I haven't handloaded for my Swedish Mauser...so it is possible that it is the most accurate.
                            They are notorious for precision. Let us know when you do.

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                            • #29
                              Nitro Express!
                              Banned
                              • Aug 2010
                              • 269

                              Hey Mustang, at what range did you make those groups?

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                              • #30
                                Mustang
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 5008

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express!
                                Hey Mustang, at what range did you make those groups?
                                All the groups were shot at 100 yards off a wooden ammo box/sandbag front
                                rest, nothing in back (other then my arm ) at the Lincoln range.
                                ...a fool and his money were lucky to get together in the first place...

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