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  • McNally M.
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2011
    • 1088

    Persian 8mm

    Hey guys, I know that this stuff has been the subject of discussion on this forum again but I was hoping to bring it up once more because I find myself getting drawn into possibly buying a case from Samco because of the low price. However I have heard many negative reviews of this ammo regarding duds and hang fires. Even JGsales advertises that such occurrences are to be expected. Do any of you have first hand experience with Persian 8mm? Care to share your experience?
    "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost
  • #2
    louie
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 1028

    Sportsmans Guide has an ammo can of 200 rds 198gr brass case berdan/corr. for 66.47 for buyers club members.$3.50 more for non members.I'm guessing that shipping is $11.99.That's roughly .39 cents per.


    Here is a forum answer on it. J&G has it and my friend test shoots it. He said around 20-30% were click booms on 2 or 3 different cases. He is the one who did the testing for them. Most people would buy it for component value. It is 30's made light ball for the Persian Mausers.

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    • #3
      McNally M.
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1088

      Originally posted by louie
      http://forums.gunboards.com/showthre...0s-8mm-Iranian

      Here is a forum answer on it. J&G has it and my friend test shoots it. He said around 20-30% were click booms on 2 or 3 different cases. He is the one who did the testing for them. Most people would buy it for component value. It is 30's made light ball for the Persian Mausers.
      This is roughly the story I've been hearing all over. I'd really like to try a few rounds for my personal satisfaction. But I don't feel like spending $.35 a round on ammo that has a bad reputation of not going off half the time.
      "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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      • #4
        CEDaytonaRydr
        Veteran Member
        • Feb 2010
        • 4141

        Originally posted by McNally M.
        This is roughly the story I've been hearing all over. I'd really like to try a few rounds for my personal satisfaction. But I don't feel like spending $.35 a round on ammo that has a bad reputation of not going off half the time.
        That's the consensus I've been hearing, as well...

        I like the Yugo surplus but it has a reputation as being about the least precise of all of the surplus 8mm. The steel-cased (...Romanian, is it? ) 8mm is supposed to be the most reliable/accurate of the lot of them. I've actually never shot it myself, though.

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        • #5
          BruinGuy
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 1456

          Where is steel cased Romanian 8mm sold (or for that matter inexpensive Turkish)? I've been looking at all the C&R sites I can find, and I've only been seeing 50's Yugo, M76 "sniper" Yugo, and Persian. I'm starting to worry that all the surplus 8mm is drying up just as I'm getting into Mausers!
          Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
          Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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          • #6
            McNally M.
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 1088

            Originally posted by BruinGuy
            Where is steel cased Romanian 8mm sold (or for that matter inexpensive Turkish)? I've been looking at all the C&R sites I can find, and I've only been seeing 50's Yugo, M76 "sniper" Yugo, and Persian. I'm starting to worry that all the surplus 8mm is drying up just as I'm getting into Mausers!
            You and I are suffering from the same fate my friend. Its terribly unfortunate.
            "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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            • #7
              CEDaytonaRydr
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 4141

              There's some on Gunbroker:

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              • #8
                BruinGuy
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2011
                • 1456

                Yikes! At the "buy now" price of $175 + $25 shipping for 340 rounds, that's $.59/round!

                It makes me queasy seeing threads from as recently as 2006 in which people speak of cases of surplus 8mm for $35.00 when I just dropped $180.00 for the same.
                Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
                Keep in mind that you don't have a clue.

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                • #9
                  mosinnagantm9130
                  Calguns Addict
                  • May 2009
                  • 8782

                  I'm tellin ya, you guys should pick up reloading. Once you've got the gear, you can turn out high quality rounds for roughly the same price as surplus stuff. The difference is, it's not corrosive, and can be much more accurate once you figure out a good load for your rifle.
                  Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                  My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                  Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                  Originally posted by ChopperX
                  I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
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                  Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                  • #10
                    CaliB&R
                    Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 237

                    Bought some of that Persian from J&G when I was there getting my Tokarev, P1 and Nagant. I have shot some of it and its not bad, not great but also not bad. Yes there are a few rounds that will click boom, but I found it funnier than as a bad thing. Cases tended to get stuck in my chamber after being fired, but I don't know if its my gun or the rounds. As for accuracy, I shot it 400yrds and hit my target with no problems. I'd be willing to buy more when I run out, it's decent enough for plinking.
                    An err on the side of caution, is still an err. - me

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                    • #11
                      CEDaytonaRydr
                      Veteran Member
                      • Feb 2010
                      • 4141

                      Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
                      I'm tellin ya, you guys should pick up reloading. Once you've got the gear, you can turn out high quality rounds for roughly the same price as surplus stuff. The difference is, it's not corrosive, and can be much more accurate once you figure out a good load for your rifle.
                      I don't know about them, but I actually do reload. I just get bogged down reloading other calibers, so I appreciate good, cheap suplus for my C&R rifles.

                      Honestly guys, the Yugo stuff isn't that bad and if you do have reloading equipment, you can even "accurize" the surplus ammo. 990rnds for $200 is a pretty good price.

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                      • #12
                        McNally M.
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2011
                        • 1088

                        Gosh surplus ammo is going up. Does anyone have any of the Persian 8mm that would be willing to let me buy or "borrow" a couple of rounds to test and see what its really all about?
                        "Let him that is without stone among you cast the first thing he can lay his hands on." -Robert Frost

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                        • #13
                          CEDaytonaRydr
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2010
                          • 4141

                          Originally posted by McNally M.
                          Gosh surplus ammo is going up. Does anyone have any of the Persian 8mm that would be willing to let me buy or "borrow" a couple of rounds to test and see what its really all about?
                          I mean, it's going to go "bang" just like any other surplus. Accuracy will be fair, to marginal and you might have a few FTFs in the pile. The question is: Why buy the Persian for 35 cents a round when you can get the Yugo for 20 cents a round, with similar performance?

                          From all accounts, the Persian ammo is not worth it.

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                          • #14
                            mycrstuff
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 1423

                            After following ammo forums for the last ten years there seems to be a general consensus on what surplus ammo not to buy. The top four are French, Indian, Pakistanian and anything from the middle east except for Turkish 8mm or Israeli ammo.

                            Some people think the Turkish 8mm is a hot load. If they think that is a hot load maybe they should just stick with .22cal.

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