Spanish Mauser Question...

[Emdawg]

Okay guys, can anyone give me an estimate on the worth of a very good 1895 Spanish Mauser Carbine with a saddle ring? I do not have pictures sorry.

I just need some input.

[smle-man]

They have really climbed in value. A nice one with a clean sharp bore and uncracked stock is easily bringing $500 on GB these days.

[ClarenceBoddicker]

I wouldn't shoot a Spanish Mauser due to possibly soft receivers.

[Emdawg]

I wouldn't shoot a Spanish Mauser due to possibly soft receivers.

I have a couple of the old small-ring mausers and they shot just fine. As a matter of fact they are the masterpieces of the early bolt-action rifles.

I just wanted to know if anyone here could tell give me a value on the 1895 Spanish cavalry carbines.

[PEZHEAD265]

The 1895 Oviedo 7mm carbine is worth about 300 to 600 but his buy now is over 1000.

http://www.gunauction.com/search/displayitem.cfm?itemnum=11098368

[gunboat]

If the spaanish mauser is so hazardous, how did it remain in sevice for nearly a hunded years?

[mosinnagantm9130]

If the spaanish mauser is so hazardous, how did it remain in sevice for nearly a hunded years?

That's what I'm wondering. The only surplus rifle I've heard of having receiver problems is the American m1903.

[PEZHEAD265]

They are thinking about the one converted to 7.62 cetme.That is the only one that can't handle modern ammo to well.They need a diet of 7.62 cetme.

[gunboat]

I think you are incorrect about the conversion being to cetme -- I do agree that the m1916 conversion should be kept to 7.62 nato pressures.

[17+1]

I think you are incorrect about the conversion being to cetme -- I do agree that the m1916 conversion should be kept to 7.62 nato pressures.

I have one that I bought for cheap and keep squirreled away. I plan on handing in to a family member/friend if it comes down to that. Simple bolt action design and easy to use notch sights are perfect for someone who doesn't know anything about shooting. The 308 caliber is nice for commonality with other guns I have and you can find it anywhere right now. I could also feed it reloads if ammo were that scarce. I have some FN NATO M80 ball to feed it in the meantime.

As far as a serious shooter, I don't really care for it. The sight radius/barrel is too short and the action is too weak for running full power reloads. To be honest, I don't really have a need for it. It could be a really handy little rifle though, if you needed it to be, and they're cheap enough to not care about.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I think he is referring to all the (mis)information out there about the .308/7.62 NATO converted M1916 carbines. The Spanish Mausers of all varieties are no more prone to pressure issues than any other small ring mauser design. The only problem that people run into is when they try to feed the ones that were converted to 7.62 NATO with a steady diet of .308 Winchester commercial loads. There has been some evidence that this may cause the action to stretch. As far as I know though, there have been no catastrophic failures. And definately none with the original, much lower pressure 7mm Mauser ones. That said, I would stick with the lighter loads, as there is no sense in wrecking an old gun.

As for the OP's question, the 1895 Cavalry Carbines are much less common than regular carbines or long rifles. As the others have said, $300-500 is not an unreasonable price range for one, depending on condition.

-Mb

[PEZHEAD265]

I think he is referring to all the (mis)information out there about the .308/7.62 NATO converted M1916 carbines. The Spanish Mausers of all varieties are no more prone to pressure issues than any other small ring mauser design. The only problem that people run into is when they try to feed the ones that were converted to 7.62 NATO with a steady diet of .308 Winchester commercial loads. There has been some evidence that this may cause the action to stretch. As far as I know though, there have been no catastrophic failures. And definately none with the original, much lower pressure 7mm Mauser ones. That said, I would stick with the lighter loads, as there is no sense in wrecking an old gun.

As for the OP's question, the 1895 Cavalry Carbines are much less common than regular carbines or long rifles. As the others have said, $300-500 is not an unreasonable price range for one, depending on condition.

-Mb

The one on AUCTION ARMS[mt first post] whent for over 1000.When I posted it with less then 24 hours to go it was under 375.It sure jumped past my expectations.

[Emdawg]

If the spaanish mauser is so hazardous, how did it remain in sevice for nearly a hunded years?

From what I read, the Spanish Model 1891, practically the same model the Argentines got, was a piece of crap. The Spanish were much more impressed with the Model 1893 in 7mm Mauser, which was a fine hi-velocity rifle at the time.

If it wasn't then how did they give the Rough Riders a run for their money.

[gunboat]

I have never heard a discouraging word about the quality of any m91's
In fact they are some of the best finished of all the military weapons.
They do lack the claw extractor and staggered box magazine of the m93s, but the 93's are not better quality.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I have never heard a discouraging word about the quality of any m91's
In fact they are some of the best finished of all the military weapons.
They do lack the claw extractor and staggered box magazine of the m93s, but the 93's are not better quality.

^This.

The quality of the 1889/1891 mausers was never an issue. Argentina used them until 1909, when they finally started upgrading to a 98 varient. Belgium used it until well after WW1. As did the Turks, albeit they stopped buying new ones as soon as the 1893 model came out. They still had so many of them that lots of their front-line units were armed with them in WW1. So much so that the British sent boatloads of captured 1891s from the Turkish front to help resuply their Belgian allies on the western front. It wasn't a matter of it having any problems. It was a matter of it being a less advanced design than later mausers. That chunky box magazine and the more primative bolt worked just fine. They were still better than many contemporary designs.

-Mb