Need help (newbie)

[robledor]

Hello Calgunners,
I hope all is well. So my bad habit kicked in and bought this a very impulsive purchase

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/1056616823

How did I do?

Also need help with loading data.
pyrodex rs 90 grains? What do I need I have no idea. Im a complete amateur when it comes to blackpowder guns. Please tell me exactly what I need to shoot.
bore butter? Patches? Please tell me all thanks

[robledor]

What happened to this place?? Just crickets

[beerman]

[robledor]

Bump to the BP wizards

[Danodog]

[NapalmCheese]

How'd you do? I have no idea. You bought a gun, so that's rad.

It's 50 cal, that's great, because it'll easy to find components. You can load sabot bullets or patched round ball. The manual will tell you the max load, it'll probably be 120 grains by volume of Black Powder or equivalent. You'll probably want to shoot FFg, but FFFg will also work. If you intend to hunt you can find all copper .50 cal sabot slugs intended for muzzle loaders. You'll also have to take off the scope IIRC for hunting in CA.

Also, Lyman makes a pretty good black powder shooting book.

[THBailey]

I would suggest you check out " https://www.modernmuzzleloader.com/ ". And I would also humbly suggest you review existing discussions instead of asking for your personal rewrite of "War and Peace".

[NapalmCheese]

Looking into it a bit more...

Stainless is nice.

In-line ignition is modern and great for hunting but not really in the spirit of muzzleloading. That said, it's still a muzzleloader, so that's rad. Stock up on 209 primers.

I'm a hunter, and I'd see this as a hunting gun. If I just wanted to fart around with black powder I'd pick up a cheap Hawkins like rifle. As such, I don't see the point in running anything but mono-metal sabot bullets through this. Do the load dev with the scope on, take the scope off and zero the sights, then go hunting. This isn't the black powder gun I'd take to just plink.

Being a modern hunting rifle I'd get the manual for the rifle and start with charge weights about 10% below max. Work up in 5 grain increments, and call it done. Failing that if you just want to go easy mode use Pyrodex or 777 (or whatever) pellets. For this modern muzzleloader and especially in a hunting situation I'd just use pellets. If you want to feel like a Longhunter get yourself a nice Pennsylvania rifle, powder horn, measure, patch, and ball. But if you want the best chance of taking animals with a black powder gun past a 100 or so yards, your modern muzzleloader is probably the way to go.

If you used tipped sabot bullets, get a starter and ram rod that'll work with the tip.

Lube in black powder guns mostly serves to keep the fouling soft. It's less of an issue with substitutes, but is still an issue. You can mitigate some of the problems by running a "spit patch" down the bore between loadings. So load, shoot, wet patch, dry patch, rinse-repeat. You shouldn't ever be shooting at a game animal with a bore that's been fouled by more than maybe 1 shot.

Don't use normal gun cleaners or gun lubes. Clean with hot soapy water and/or a 10-1 water-ballistol mix. Or just water, that's mostly what I use, soap makes it easier.

I don't know how this works or if you can take the barrel off easily but with my muzzleloader I just take the barrels off (it's a SxS), put the breech end in a water/ballistol mix, and pump a wad up and down the barrel to siphon up the mixture and then let it all drain out. Aftward I use dry patches, and finally a ballistol patch before storing.

Make no mistake about it, Pyrodex is NOT non-corrosive. It is at least as corrosive as black powder.

[RNE228]

1st, read the whole manual. most of your questions are answered there.

https://www.muzzleloaders.com/owners-manuals/

https://www.muzzleloaders.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/08/Knight_Owners_Manual_2021Preview.pdf

Have not shot modern in-line rifles, but have shot traditional style rifles for decades. Looks like you need bullets, sabots, powder pellets or powder and measure, primers and a bullet starter

[RNE228]

Note the manual says to use sabot and bullet, not a patched ball like a traditional Hawken or Pennsylvania long style rifle...