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  • Josh Smith
    Senior Member
    • May 2011
    • 1091

    Mosin-Nagant Stripper Clip Loading Repair Procedures

    Hello,

    It's no secret that a lot of us are frustrated to use stripper clips in the Mosin-Nagant. The causes vary, but can usually be narrowed down to any combination of four items.

    1. Improper stripper clip loading. Though in theory the rounds can be thrown into a stripper clip willy-nilly and be expected to work correctly, the reality is that on must stagger the rims in an order that gives omni-directional loading potential as well as ease of loading.

    I have seen surplus factory loaded into the stripper clips in this manner, and it works well:

    Click to view on YouTube


    This method ensures a consistent pressure from case-to-case. The middle case can also be staggered UNDERNEATH the rims instead of on top.

    2. The use of cheap stripper clips. The ones from China in this next vid are the most popular, but they're also flimsy due to low carbon content. Hardening them helps a lot.

    This is the method I use:

    Click to view on YouTube


    This helps keep the rounds in place while they move downward. Otherwise, as you can see, they tend to spill out the sides.

    3. Poor fitting of parts. The USSR could not always hand-fit parts properly. The Mosin was made during a time when final fitting was done by hand. One cannot really expect these to function well without such fitting any more than one could expect a 1911 to function will by just dropping in random parts from different pistols!

    Unfortunately, this next video only shows the results of proper fitting, not the fitting itself. I've not gotten around to doing the picture series on that, yet. Results:

    Click to view on YouTube


    I hope someone out there finds this writeup useful. Though I've posted these vids one place or another, this is the first time I've brought them together.

    The Mosin was designed to work a certain way, and when arming a conscript army en masse, I would expect that it's rather difficult to take the time on each weapon that should be taken.

    However, individually-owned weapons can, and should, be made to function as originally intended by the designers. They are much more useful this way and much more of a pleasure to shoot!

    Regards,

    Josh
    Last edited by Josh Smith; 05-08-2012, 11:13 PM.
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    Flintlock Tom
    Veteran Member
    • Feb 2007
    • 3353

    I have always heard that the rim of one cartridge must go in front of the rim of the cartridge below it so that when feeding into the chamber the cartridge does not "hang up" on the rim of the next cartridge.
    How does it work if the rim of the cartridge being fed into the chamber is behind the rim of the next cartridge?
    Confused.
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    I let my CA residency expire in 2015."

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    • #3
      Flyin Brian
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      • Oct 2009
      • 3395

      If the interrupter is working properly then there will be no problem with rim-lock, as the interrupter holds the next round down in the magazine where it will not interfere with the round being pushed into the chamber. I've loaded my mosins many times with the rims stacked to cause a jam on purpose, and as long as the interrupter is working properly and the magazine follower springs have the correct pressure, it will load all 5 rounds without a hitch.
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      I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

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      • #4
        blackrat
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 1103

        I have this issue as well where I have to stack the rimmed cartridges or else they'll lock on each other while sliding the bolt forward. Both my 91/30 and m44 do it and my friend's dragoon does it as well so I'm guessing the interrupter problem is common. Any fixes?

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        • #5
          Fate
          Calguns Addict
          • Apr 2006
          • 9545

          Originally posted by blackrat
          I have this issue as well where I have to stack the rimmed cartridges or else they'll lock on each other while sliding the bolt forward. Both my 91/30 and m44 do it and my friend's dragoon does it as well so I'm guessing the interrupter problem is common. Any fixes?
          It seems to be common, because it's often discussed but I think most Mosins don't have the problem. You just hear about those who do much more often (who posts and says it's running fine? Nobody ).

          The fix is a new interruper spring. Unfortunately, those are becoming harder to find "in the wild."

          The OP's step 1 is bunk if using good stripper clips in a rifle with a properly functioning interrupter and follower. Stacking the rounds is not necessary, nor do they even stay stacked if loaded and then tossed into a mag pouch and jostled. Bottom line if you're having to baby-coddle things, somethings not working as designed.
          Last edited by Fate; 05-09-2012, 12:54 PM.
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          • #6
            golddredger
            Member
            • Nov 2011
            • 338

            Originally posted by Flintlock Tom
            I have always heard that the rim of one cartridge must go in front of the rim of the cartridge below it so that when feeding into the chamber the cartridge does not "hang up" on the rim of the next cartridge.
            How does it work if the rim of the cartridge being fed into the chamber is behind the rim of the next cartridge?
            Confused.
            OK new video coming with a full "HOW TO" on the Mosin to get your clips to feed like butter! Nothing wrong with Josh Smiths methed to get the clips themselves in check but you can do some work in the rifle to get it up to par. I have learned a bunch about what it takes. I will not highjack Josh's thread so I will start another post with the video later today once it is uploaded to you tube.
            You got to keep on keep'in on!!!!

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            • #7
              m1a1driver
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 1031

              polish strippers are the best.

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              • #8
                Flyin Brian
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                • Oct 2009
                • 3395

                Originally posted by m1a1driver
                polish strippers are the best.
                ...especially the ones that don't speak english!!
                NRA Life Member - CRPA Life Member - NRA Certified RSO - USN Veteran

                I collect Military Arms and enjoy shooting in local matches. I also collect older Lever Actions, especially those chambered in odd/old cartridges. If you have a nice old Winchester or Marlin in 25-20, 32-40, 38-55, 40-60, 45-70, etc etc, please PM me and we can work out a deal.

                Originally posted by TheExpertdouche
                I wasn't kidding when I said this would all be over by Xmas... Stay tuned for good news next week.

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                • #9
                  OniKoroshi
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2011
                  • 1321

                  Originally posted by Flyin Brian
                  ...especially the ones that don't speak english!!

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