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  • kkritter
    Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 142

    Can you identify this old pistol?

    My next door neighbor brought this old muzzle loading pistol over to try to identify it. I has no markings of any kind except for what appears to be a monogram on the back of the grip, looks like RFC. It seems to function including the spring loaded flip out "dagger/bayonet" but has a crack in the hammer, don't know if I'd fire it. It also hasn't been taken care of and has some rust, especially in the barrel. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks.
    Last edited by kkritter; 08-03-2019, 5:02 PM.
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    harmoniums
    Veteran Member
    • May 2008
    • 3488

    Bring it to little johns auction service in Orange.
    ITs probably worth at least $1K
    WTB Irish firearms:
    old SxS shotguns, Enfields (Irish contract or FF marked), RIC marked carbines or revolvers, odd ball flintlocks.

    VZ58 PARTS F/S - I've got everything except magazine parts
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    • #3
      CaptBuzz
      Member
      • Mar 2012
      • 177

      I found that the bayonet is classed a "flip, flick or spring" bayonet. I believe it's a "percussion pistol" and the trigger should pop out when cocked. I also found a lot of British pistols from the early 1800's that were considered "no-name."

      Here's a Ross Edinburgh I found with a similar bayonet:


      Also initials RH (ROBERT HARVEY) on some old flintlocks from the 1700's.
      Last edited by CaptBuzz; 04-01-2012, 7:47 PM.

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      • #4
        Mike A
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2007
        • 1209

        You need to search for any proofmarks or other markings on the pistol and show photos of them or describe them in detail. This gun could have been made any time in the percussion period (about 1840s on) and in any number of countries. And it could be a cheap "for the trade" item or the product of a famous gunmaker. Markings will tell. The silver shield very likely has the owner's initials, not the maker's.

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        • #5
          kkritter
          Member
          • Feb 2009
          • 142

          Found some more info...

          OK, after taking a closer look, and I don't know how I missed these, I did find some proof marks and a number. Googled "percussion cap pistol proof marks" and found a chart that seems to suggest these are English proof marks. One is a crown over a "V" above the number "36" The other is a crown over a what looks like a "C" with the bottom of the C forming into a "P". Here's the link to the chart I found.

          manufacturers identifying marks, more commonly referred to as Proof Marks, Arsenal or Inspector Marks


          A couple of pics attached. This is as close as my old camera would do. Thanks.
          Last edited by kkritter; 08-03-2019, 5:02 PM.

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          • #6
            Blitzburgh
            In Memoriam
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Jan 2011
            • 2635

            Wow... what a neat pistol!

            If it ends up not being a super high priced or rare piece and just more of a curio - PM me, it would be cool to have on display.

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            • #7
              Mike A
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2007
              • 1209

              Worth having appraised by a pro. I suspect that the "36" may be the bore size; either .36 caliber in inches or 36 bore as in guage. The Brits used both kinds of measurement back in the day, although "guage" would be more common and would be larger than .36 in. A rough measurement of the bore would tell you if either of these guesses are true. But you need an British gun specialist to appraise this. I think any British gun of this vintage is at least somewhat valuable, but only an expert can tell HOW valuable.
              Last edited by Mike A; 04-04-2012, 6:56 AM.

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