Anyone else into the more modern stuff on the C&R list?

[Knifemaker]

I got my C&R and love the fact that I can bring Auto Mags into the state! Lots of other stuff in the modern category but its seems to mostly be commemorative stuff. Is there any other niche gun like the old original Auto Mags that you use your C&R to get other than old military rifles?

[tlillard23]

ummm... what's an auto mag?

[tankerman]

AutoMags are sweet, but there are a few problems

First, they are getting more and more expensive by the day and some of the ammo ain't cheap either

Second, they are getting more and more difficult to find.

I have a friend in Texas with one and I have been working on him for almost two years, trying to get him to give it up.

[Boomer1961]

ummm... what's an auto mag?

Again, what is an auto mag!!!?????????????

[smle-man]

AutoMags are sweet, but there are a few problems

First, they are getting more and more expensive by the day and some of the ammo ain't cheap either

Second, they are getting more and more difficult to find.

I have a friend in Texas with one and I have been working on him for almost two years, trying to get him to give it up.

A friend's Dad was a buddy of Harry Sanford and had one of the Pasadena made .44 Auto Mags in a case. He showed it to me a couple of years ago. He just told me recently that he sold it to someone who has been bugging him about it for years. Sold it for $1,500 - a fraction of its real value. Wish I had known it was up for sale!

[dustoff31]

Again, what is an auto mag!!!?????????????

It's a .44 Mag Semi Auto. Think of a Ruger Mk1 in .44 Mag.

Here's a pic:https://www.securityarms.com/2001031.../1600/1687.htm

[dfletcher]

I didn't know the AutoMags were listed - maybe one will be floating aroung the Reno show.

[Knifemaker]

AutoMags are sweet, but there are a few problems

First, they are getting more and more expensive by the day and some of the ammo ain't cheap either

Second, they are getting more and more difficult to find.

I have a friend in Texas with one and I have been working on him for almost two years, trying to get him to give it up.

This is basically all false info, along with they break easy,and are too epensive to shoot, that gets gets spread around about these great guns over the years by people who dont really get into Auto Mag shooting/collecting.

First they have never been cheap but right now with this crappy market I have seen several and I mean like 2 dozen up for sale recently.Some of them have been priced very fairly. You can get a good solid gun in the $1500-$1800 range. Yeah its not cheap but its a good price for a good shooter now.

What you really have to do is research them and decide if you want a real collectable piece or just a shooter. I have picked up two of them in the last few months. One of them came with alot of Auto Mag stuff, anything with the name Auto Mag on it pertaining to the original run of guns from 1970 to about 1982 is worth something, usually alot! Some of the old mags with articles about them sell for $100, for an old magazines!

Some guns make great shooters like the TDE guns made in El Monte, lots of them around for sale. Every gun you think of buying needs to be checked out, you really need to know what to look for and there are some great websites that tell you exactly how to do it. The biggest problem is if you buy a gun that has been shot ALOT with very hot loads or shot with loose recoil rods and the gun is damaged or cracked the parts are very very expensive.

The ammo can be bought right from Cor-Bon and yes its not cheap about $30 for 20 rounds. Its very easy to reload, lots of different bullets work and the brass is made by Starline and is in my opinion cheap at $135 for 500 rounds. You can still find lots of factory loaded stuff for about $85 a box for 50 rounds , they seem to work ok for me but are very dirty. I reload everything I shoot in it now and it costs me $4 a box of fifty rounds for my reloads.

It all comes down to doing your homework if you want one. Everytime someone starts talking to me about one at a gunshow about 99% of what they say is false. Most people know the myth but some guys out there know the real story.

[Knifemaker]

A friend's Dad was a buddy of Harry Sanford and had one of the Pasadena made .44 Auto Mags in a case. He showed it to me a couple of years ago. He just told me recently that he sold it to someone who has been bugging him about it for years. Sold it for $1,500 - a fraction of its real value. Wish I had known it was up for sale!

If it was one of the early Pasadena guns it was worth about $2200-$2500 if that. They just dont go for very much unless there is something special about it. Fraction of its real value? Not really but definitely a good price at $1500.

[Knifemaker]

It's a .44 Mag Semi Auto. Think of a Ruger Mk1 in .44 Mag.

Here's a pic:https://www.securityarms.com/2001031.../1600/1687.htm

Its actually a rimless version of the .44 Mag that was loaded to much higher pressures than the normal .44 Magnum loadings, the gun was built for these pressures. Also had no loss of energy from a cylinder gap like on the .44 magnums of the time. Less recoil too with the blowback auto action.

[Knifemaker]

Here's one of mine that I bought an extra 6 1/2 inch barrel for then cut it down to 4 1/2 inches, polished and engraved a skull and flames into it. The used barrel cost me $575. Also pictured is a 6 1/2 inch ribbed barrel gun and a 8 1/2 inch tapered barrel gun.

[dustoff31]

Its actually a rimless version of the .44 Mag that was loaded to much higher pressures than the normal .44 Magnum loadings, the gun was built for these pressures. Also had no loss of energy from a cylinder gap like on the .44 magnums of the time. Less recoil too with the blowback auto action.

I know. I met Harry several times. Just trying to give them a simple explaination.

[tankerman]

False?

First, I and many other DO consider $2000+ for a handgun to be expensive.

Second, yes there fewer and few available as they continue to end with collectors.

Third, you admit that ammo is expensive.

"know where to look"? What exactly does that mean? Is there a secret stash of Pasadenas hiding at the bottom of a Rainbow? I'm sure you can find dozens to choose from in your area, right? If so please bring me along.

Thanks for the "real story" Mr.Mythbuster

This is basically all false info, along with they break easy,and are too epensive to shoot, that gets gets spread around about these great guns over the years by people who dont really get into Auto Mag shooting/collecting.

First they have never been cheap but right now with this crappy market I have seen several and I mean like 2 dozen up for sale recently.Some of them have been priced very fairly. You can get a good solid gun in the $1500-$1800 range. Yeah its not cheap but its a good price for a good shooter now.

What you really have to do is research them and decide if you want a real collectable piece or just a shooter. I have picked up two of them in the last few months. One of them came with alot of Auto Mag stuff, anything with the name Auto Mag on it pertaining to the original run of guns from 1970 to about 1982 is worth something, usually alot! Some of the old mags with articles about them sell for $100, for an old magazines!

Some guns make great shooters like the TDE guns made in El Monte, lots of them around for sale. Every gun you think of buying needs to be checked out, you really need to know what to look for and there are some great websites that tell you exactly how to do it. The biggest problem is if you buy a gun that has been shot ALOT with very hot loads or shot with loose recoil rods and the gun is damaged or cracked the parts are very very expensive.

The ammo can be bought right from Cor-Bon and yes its not cheap about $30 for 20 rounds. Its very easy to reload, lots of different bullets work and the brass is made by Starline and is in my opinion cheap at $135 for 500 rounds. You can still find lots of factory loaded stuff for about $85 a box for 50 rounds , they seem to work ok for me but are very dirty. I reload everything I shoot in it now and it costs me $4 a box of fifty rounds for my reloads.

It all comes down to doing your homework if you want one. Everytime someone starts talking to me about one at a gunshow about 99% of what they say is false. Most people know the myth but some guys out there know the real story.

[Knifemaker]

False?

First, I and many other DO consider $2000+ for a handgun to be expensive.

Second, yes there fewer and few available as they continue to end with collectors.

Third, you admit that ammo is expensive.

"know where to look"? What exactly does that mean? Is there a secret stash of Pasadenas hiding at the bottom of a Rainbow? I'm sure you can find dozens to choose from in your area, right? If so please bring me along.

Thanks for the "real story" Mr.Mythbuster

Your welcome! Just trying to help. To some people a $3k custom 1911 is cheap so whats your point? Yes you have to know where to look, how to do common searches without coming up with ten million automag paintball guns on the net.There are more now for sale, especially on the net than there has even been in the last 20 years that I have followed them, this is the truth, I have been there looking for them.The ammo is cheap if you reload, very cheap. I wasnt attacking you so why all the drama? Your views are just the misconceptions people that dont follow the Auto Mag commonly have.

[Knifemaker]

I know. I met Harry several times. Just trying to give them a simple explaination.

And your point is? I just clarified what you said, you made it sound like it took normal .44 mag cartridges? Because you met Harry your an expert? Lots of people met Harry, his son still deals in AM parts, have you met him too?