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It's been almost 90 days since I sent my coe, I'm still waiting, so it seems its taking the state a while to process. FYI my c&r arrived in 3 weeks. Good luck!
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Interesting because I'm not sure how that worked out. I don't know about LEO or prior military.
On the website:
Below you will find links to all the required documents that are necessary to ensure a complete application. Applicants may print forms on standard white paper. In addition to the below documents, applications must be accompanied by a signed Certification of Compliance (ATF F 5330.20) for each additional Responsible Person (RP) on the license, if applicable.
On the Certificate of Compliance, it also clearly states that you MUST fill out the form or ATF will send it back.
Glad yours still went through but I wouldn't recommend not sending it. It's easy enough to avoid a delay by submitting the form.Comment
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YES! YOU DO NEED IT!
You need the 2nd form filled out. Under section 14, you are affirming that you in fact sent that form to your CLEO.
It's not a 2nd form, it's just a 2nd copy of the 03 application with the payment information redacted.
The form that is not needed is the Certification of Compliance.
That is needed ONLY if the applicant is a non-resident alien.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddComment
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LEO or prior military makes no difference.
That is for general FFL application (an FFL other than class 03).On the website:
Below you will find links to all the required documents that are necessary to ensure a complete application. Applicants may print forms on standard white paper. In addition to the below documents, applications must be accompanied by a signed Certification of Compliance (ATF F 5330.20) for each additional Responsible Person (RP) on the license, if applicable.
On the Certificate of Compliance, it also clearly states that you MUST fill out the form or ATF will send it back.
There will never be "additional named persons" on the 03FFL application because it is an individual application for collectors.
The 03 application is basically a clone of the standard FFL application.
"Additional named persons" would be co-owners of your business.
This is quoted directly from the application:
Section 10 applies only to Nonimmigrant aliens. It does not apply to US citizens or people here on a green card.10. Nonimmigrant Alien Certification of Compliance With 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B). If Additional Space is Needed, Use a Separate Sheet.
18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B) generally makes it unlawful for any nonimmigrant alien to ship or transport in interstate or foreign commerce, or possess in or affecting commerce, any firearms or ammunition; or to receive any firearms or ammunition which have been shipped or transported in interstate or foreign commerce. All nonimmigrant aliens listed in item 9 must complete the following information certifying compliance with 18 U.S.C. 922(g)(5)(B).
A. Name of Person Certifying Compliance Last: First: Middle Initial:
B. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Issued Alien Number or Admission Number (Previously INS Number):
C. Are you in possession of a valid hunting license or permit lawfully issued in the United States?
1. If you answered "NO," you likely cannot lawfully possess a firearm and therefore cannot be a federal firearms licensee.
2. If you answered "YES," complete the following information, and attach a copy of the hunting license or permit to the application.
The questions may be left blank, or "N/A" may be filled in on the blanks.
Do not answer the question referring to the hunting license.
Skip it. The BATFE will not reject your 03FFL without the CoC.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddComment
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On the website:
Below you will find links to all the required documents that are necessary to ensure a complete application. Applicants may print forms on standard white paper. In addition to the below documents, applications must be accompanied by a signed Certification of Compliance (ATF F 5330.20) for each additional Responsible Person (RP) on the license, if applicable.
That's what I was reading-plural documents. But looking into it further, you're definitely right CokeBottle. My mistake. Even easier.Comment
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I was talking about the second form, as in the second link/form on the AFT page linked in my quote.
Right. The second form linked on the page.The form that is not needed is the Certification of Compliance.
That is needed ONLY if the applicant is a non-resident alien.Comment
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Okay... I thought you were referring to the 2nd copy of the 03 app, since that was what the post you quoted was talking about.
Ya... the whole thing with the CoC has been confusing people for about 2 years, in no small part because some misinformed BATFE agents were indicating that it WAS needed.
The whole "if applicable" covers it.
Follow the instructions on the 03 app and the only questions should be:
1 - What do I use for "Title"?
"Collector" is your title.
2 - Who is my CLEO?
Answer: Either the Chief of Police or County Sheriff. Who responds when you call the cops? This may not be easy... I grew up in South Whittier. All of 90604, and half of 3 other zip codes were Whittier mailing addresses, but were outside of incorporated Whittier and were serviced by LASD.
But GENERALLY....
Google "City of XYZ Chief of Police" and your first hit will normally be to the Chief's profile page on the city web site.
It may or may not have his contact information, but it will at least give you a name.
From there, it'll be easy to navigate the PD site to find the address and phone number (no need for phone number, I just post it here in case it's wanted).
If you are serviced by the Sheriff's department, then it'll go to da' big guy over at the County Seat.... there's only 58 of them in the state and they're even easier to find online than some of the Chiefs.- Rich
Originally posted by dantoddComment
I just got to find out who the CLEO of the City of Long Beach is right?
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