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  • moog
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 74

    WW2 Era k98 questions

    Hi fellow calgunners. Please forgive my noobiness. I've got a k98 rifle with swastikas etc all over it and i was trying to find more information about the rifle. Maybe when or where it was manufactured. I know the mauser in general was a rifle mass produced and by different countries etc. This one has some stampings on it that say, "Mod.98" "svw MB" "25 c" That is pretty much all the texted stampings I could find, minus all the swastikas and birds. Can anyone shed some light? Is this an authentic ww2 era nazi rifle?





    Last edited by moog; 12-10-2011, 3:59 PM.
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    louscamaro91
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 3522

    Can you post more pictures.
    Are the numbers matching?
    Do you see any import marks on the barrel or receiver?
    Looks likes your missing a cleaning rod and the finish looks wrong. Looks like a park, rather than a bluing.
    Might be the pictures.
    Last edited by louscamaro91; 12-10-2011, 3:49 PM.

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    • #3
      Fate
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2006
      • 9545

      svw MB is Mauser Werke A.G.
      Oberndorf-am-Neckar (under French direction).
      Made in 1945

      It's a legit WWII K98.

      Here's a good link for deciphering other codes: http://home.scarlet.be/p.colmant/german-codes.htm
      sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

      "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
      , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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      • #4
        Fate
        Calguns Addict
        • Apr 2006
        • 9545

        Originally posted by louscamaro91
        Looks likes your missing a cleaning rod and the finish looks wrong. Looks like a park, rather than a bluing.
        Might be the pictures.
        No, it's late war. No cleaning rod often provided (nor even hole drilled for one) and it's a phosphate finish. Completely correct for 1945.
        sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

        "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
        , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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        • #5
          louscamaro91
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2007
          • 3522

          Originally posted by Fate
          No, it's late war. No cleaning rod often provided (nor even hole drilled for one) and it's a phosphate finish. Completely correct for 1945.
          I didn't see the picture of the receiver marking.
          Looks like a nice one. Even the slings looks original.
          That's worth a chunk of change if all matching.

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          • #6
            moog
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 74

            The side of the barrel has the "25c" stamp, the bolt has a "25c" stamp as well.

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            • #7
              paul0660
              In Memoriam
              • Jul 2007
              • 15669

              Get a username and log on here: http://forums.gunboards.com/forumdis...8-Mauser-Forum

              I think they would want more pics, but can probably track this one back to the day it left the factory.
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              • #8
                moog
                Junior Member
                • Oct 2011
                • 74




                Wow thanks for all the quick replys guys!
                Here are some more shots. I think it is drilled for a cleaning rod.

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                • #9
                  paul0660
                  In Memoriam
                  • Jul 2007
                  • 15669

                  They actually would want GOOD pics.
                  *REMOVE THIS PART BEFORE POSTING*

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                  • #10
                    mosinnagantm9130
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2009
                    • 8782

                    It is a real 1945 K98, but shouldn't it be either a semi or full Kreigsmodel that late in production?
                    Originally posted by GoodEyeSniper
                    My neighbors think I'm a construction worker named Bruce.

                    Little do they know that's just my stripper outfit and name.
                    Originally posted by ChopperX
                    I am currently cleaning it and I noticed when I squeeze the snake this white paste like substance comes out. What the heck is this crap?
                    Originally posted by Jeff L
                    Don't D&T a virgin milsurp rifle. You'll burn in collector hell.

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                    • #11
                      SVT-40
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 12894

                      Originally posted by Fate
                      svw MB is Mauser Werke A.G.
                      Oberndorf-am-Neckar (under French direction).
                      Made in 1945

                      It's a legit WWII K98.

                      Here's a good link for deciphering other codes: http://home.scarlet.be/p.colmant/german-codes.htm
                      Yup very late Nazi made rifle (not yet under French supervision). Compare it to this post Nazi made rifle with the same markings made under French supervision (star added) and no Nazi proofs. French style stacking rod and French sling cut in the stock.






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                      • #12
                        Fate
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 9545

                        Originally posted by moog



                        Wow thanks for all the quick replys guys!
                        Here are some more shots. I think it is drilled for a cleaning rod.
                        Wood isnt' drilled. That's a Kriegsmodel feature!
                        Originally posted by mosinnagantm9130
                        It is a real 1945 K98, but shouldn't it be either a semi or full Kreigsmodel that late in production?
                        Looks like it is a semi Kreigsmodel.
                        Originally posted by SVT-40
                        Yup very late Nazi made rifle (not yet under French supervision). Compare it to this post Nazi made rifle with the same markings made under French supervision (star added) and no Nazi proofs. French style stacking rod and French sling cut in the stock.
                        Thx for the clarification re: French production. I was cutting/pasting from the site I linked to.
                        sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

                        "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
                        , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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                        • #13
                          timdps
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Feb 2007
                          • 3468

                          Looks very nice, but I'm a bit concerned that the trigger guard and mag floorplate not having matching numbers. This is often an indication that the stock has been replaced.

                          Do the barrel bands have serial numbers? This late they may well not have had serial numbers.

                          The other thing to check is the stock barrel channel under the barrel. Serial number is usually stamped in the wood there. If you are unfamiliar with K98 disassembly please get an person experienced at it to get the lower barrel band off. Its easy to scratch the metal...

                          Tim

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                          • #14
                            Rogerbutthead
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jul 2006
                            • 3831

                            I took a look at Kriegsmodell by Michael Steves and Bruce Karem - and at page 67 it lists "c" serialed svwMB's as the last produced German made rifles there - Mauser Oberndorf - with about 2500 made - another 25,550 French made svwMB marked rifles were produced after the plant was overrun by the French Army on or around April 17th, 1945. So I am guessing the rifle was made in early April 1945?

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                            • #15
                              moog
                              Junior Member
                              • Oct 2011
                              • 74

                              Wow, it's just amazing at what information is out there! Thanks for looking it up for me

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