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  • #1
    cookmonsta
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    • Mar 2009
    • 276

    Need HELP Identifying C&R Octagon Barrel Rifle and revolver

    Greetings. I'm in need of a little help from the C&R experts on the forum. Can anyone could identify the rifle, pistol, and values of each or even ball park figure? Any help is greatly appreciated. The rifle has an Octagon Barrel and the Pistol is Iver Johnson. Here are some pictures. Thanks in Advance.






    Last edited by cookmonsta; 11-14-2011, 1:22 PM.
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      dangerranger
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2010
      • 578
      The rifle looks like a parlor rifle. Some were made by Flobert. They shot a short cartrige with a round bb as a bullit. Some shot a 4.5 mm,22 cal, or even 9mm.they could be shot indoors. they were popular from the 1880s to the 1920s. As far as price they are not expencive. Probably less than $150. DR
      Last edited by dangerranger; 11-14-2011, 8:55 PM.

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        • #3
          gunboat
          Veteran Member
          • Apr 2008
          • 3288
          It is a flobert using the Warnant breech system.
          as said it was chambered mostly for 22bb, 22short, long, long rifle, 32 short & long rimfire and 9mm short & long rim fire. Plus a few other odd calibers -
          The warnant system was the fourth and last style flobert and ended production about 1932 --
          see frank dehaas book "single shot rifles" for more info.
          my tuppence

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            • #4
              billybob_jcv
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2011
              • 1507
              Some of you guys are amazing! I am in awe of your depth of knowledge and/or your google-fu...

              The trigger guard on that rifle is wild - I can't tell if it's a trigger guard or a bear trap!
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                • #5
                  billybob_jcv
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2011
                  • 1507
                  The pistol might be an Iver Johnson Supershot. How many chambers in the cylinder - is it 8? Can you tell if it is a .22 or .32? Any other markings on it? I think they are fairly common - but I really don't know.
                  He who exercises no forethought but makes light of his opponents is sure to be captured by them.
                  -Sun Tzu, The Art of War

                  I say thank God for government waste. If government is doing bad things, it's only the waste that prevents the harm from being greater.
                  -Milton Friedman

                  What kind of government do you guys got here? This is worse than California.
                  -Woody Allen, Sleepers

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                    • #6
                      dangerranger
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 578
                      Originally posted by billybob_jcv
                      Some of you guys are amazing! I am in awe of your depth of knowledge and/or your google-fu...

                      The trigger guard on that rifle is wild - I can't tell if it's a trigger guard or a bear trap!
                      the guard is somewhat bent but it was designed to be used in the off hand shooting that was popular back then. they placed there fingers on it in such a way as to have the trigger finger free and not touching anything else. you will see some odder looking ones on schoetzen type guns. DR

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