Just got my C&R YAAAY! Now, I have a ??

[NYsteveZ]

As the title says! Now, a couple quick questions 1-If I purchase a firearm NOT C&R (through my gun shop etc) do I still have to log it and keep records with my C&R stuff?
2-When and how is AB 809 going to affect me? What date is it set to go in effect where I will need a COE AND 03 before I can purchase a firearm shipped to my door?
3-(Finally) I read about making copies, signing the license copies in red ink, then spamming EVERY C&R dealer (CMP, J&G, etc) with it to purchase firearms, correct?

[emcon5]

As the title says! Now, a couple quick questions 1-If I purchase a firearm NOT C&R (through my gun shop etc) do I still have to log it and keep records with my C&R stuff?

No, only Curios and Relics go in your bound book, including ones you buy from a normal CA dealer. Any C&Rs you already own do not need to go in your book unless you sell them.

2-When and how is AB 809 going to affect me? What date is it set to go in effect where I will need a COE AND 03 before I can purchase a firearm shipped to my door?

Don't know, but I have seen a cuople threads on it.

3-(Finally) I read about making copies, signing the license copies in red ink, then spamming EVERY C&R dealer (CMP, J&G, etc) with it to purchase firearms, correct?

Yes, as well as Brownells, Midway, and Graff & Sons. All give dealer discounts to 03 FFLs.

Some dealers are now accepting scanned/faxed copies of C&Rs now, so check the web sites before you mail.

Here is a good start:

AIM Surplus (firearms/ammo seller), 3801 Lefferson Rd, Middletown, OH 45044 http://www.aimsurplus.com/
Allan's Armory, P.O. Box 331, Graham, FL 32042 http://www.allans-armory.com/aa.php
Brownells Inc (gun parts etc.), 200 South Front Street, Montezuma, IA 50171 http://www.brownells.com/
Century Arms (firearms/ammo), 430 South Congress Ave, Suite 1, Delray Beach, FL 33445 http://www.centuryarms.com/Century/home.htm
Graf and Sons, Inc (ammo, reloading, supplies etc.), 4050 S. Clark, Mexico, MO 65265 http://www.grafs.com/
J&G Sales (firearms, ammo, accessories), 440 Miller Valley Rd, Prescott AZ 86301 http://www.jgsales.com/
Midway USA (parts, ammo, reloading, books etc.), Dealer Sales, 5875 W. Van Horn Tavern Rd., Columbia, MO 65203 http://www.midwayusa.com/
Samco(firearms/ammo), 6995 NW 43rd St, Miami, FL 33166 http://www.samcoglobal.com/index.html
Southern Ohio Guns (SOG) (firearms/ammo), 240 Harmon Ave P.O. Box 590, Lebanon, OH 45036 http://www.southernohiogun.com/
RC Arms PO Box 464 Savage, MN 55378 http://www.rcarms.com/http://www.classicarms.us/
I.O.INC, P.O. Box 847, Monroe, NC 28111-0847 http://ioinc.us/

[NYsteveZ]

WOW EMCON5! Thanks! That is an extensive list of C&R dealers. I see now there is only one thing to do since we dont know the status of AB 809-SPEND LIKE CRAZY!!! Thanks again!

[TheExpertish]

1. If it's C&R, yes.
2. Don't worry about it. It is 2 years from taking effect and will be fought.
3. Look in the sticky section there is an extensive list.

[chknlyps2]

2-When and how is AB 809 going to affect me? What date is it set to go in effect where I will need a COE AND 03 before I can purchase a firearm shipped to my door?

Jan 1 2014 is when AB 809 will start if it sticks.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

If AB 809 goes into effect then you will need to get a COE if you want to order C&R firearms from out of state to be delivered to you in California. That's the bad part. The good part is you will be able to have C&R long guns of any age shipped to you instead of just C&R long guns that are over 50 years old like it is now.

[cruddymutt]

Dont forget Numrich, they also give a discount to FFL03's. One of the best places IMO to get parts to keep these old horses running strong.