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  • savasyn
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2007
    • 3201

    M1903 clean up

    I'm brining my new-to-me M1903A1 home tonight! It does not appear to be coated in cosmo at all so I think a good cleaning and oiling will be all it needs.

    Should I bother to remove the action from the stock to check anything or just leave it alone?

    And yes, I'll post pictures of it once it's all cleaned up either tonight or tomorrow.

    Thanks!
  • #2
    NRAhighpowershooter
    Super Moderator
    CGN Contributor - Lifetime
    • Jun 2003
    • 6485

    If it were mine, I'd strip it down to the bare action.. bolt as well.....Don't mess with the cut-off switch though.. they are a ROYAL PITA to put back together........
    'Just Don't Point, Squint, and Laugh! '

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    • #3
      Fate
      Calguns Addict
      • Apr 2006
      • 9545

      I almost always do a thorough take down/cleaning of a milsurp (but as NRAhps said, stop at the tricky stuff).

      Good to do as sometimes you find severe pitting on the exterior barrel/action that's hidden beneath the wood. Others have found sabotaged rifles that were waiting for someone to shoot them and be injured/killed (gunboards.com's forum had pics of one of these a couple years ago).

      It gives me peace of mind to shoot these old girls once I've given them a good look.
      sigpic "On bended knee is no way to be free." - Eddie Vedder, "Guaranteed"

      "Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks." -Thomas Jefferson
      , in a letter to his nephew Peter Carr dated August 19, 1785

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      • #4
        Full Clip
        I need a LIFE!!
        • Dec 2006
        • 10263

        Originally posted by bdgfate
        Others have found sabotaged rifles that were waiting for someone to shoot them and be injured/killed (gunboards.com's forum had pics of one of these a couple years ago).
        That's just cold...

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        • #5
          metalhead357
          Calguns Addict
          • Jan 2006
          • 5546

          I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
          I am not a number! I am a free man

          1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
          2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
          3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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          • #6
            savasyn
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2007
            • 3201

            What kind of things would people to to sabotage rifles? And WHY???

            I just pulled the bolt apart and it looks great inside. I'm going to garage to pull the rest apart in a few minutes.

            The bolt is well lubed with a heavy oil or light grease. I don't have anything quite like that, just CLP and Tetra. Anyone know a good grease to use on the bolt?

            I'll post pictures once it's all back together.

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            • #7
              metalhead357
              Calguns Addict
              • Jan 2006
              • 5546

              Originally posted by savasyn
              Anyone know a good grease to use on the bolt?.
              DONT grease it...unless you're putting it into a storage condition. Light oil or CLP will work just fine.
              I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
              I am not a number! I am a free man

              1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
              2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
              3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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              • #8
                savasyn
                Veteran Member
                • Aug 2007
                • 3201

                Originally posted by metalhead357
                DONT grease it...unless you're putting it into a storage condition. Light oil or CLP will work just fine.
                Hmmm, that's the opposite of what I was told about the Mosin bolt.

                Out of curiosity, what is the problem with grease?

                I'd prefer to use CLP as I'm using it elsewhere on the rifle.

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                • #9
                  ar15barrels
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 57099

                  Don't forget that CLP is heavy on solvents and evaporates.
                  CLP is NOT a good oil for the sake of having oil.
                  If you want oil, use oil.

                  CLP is a concotion to made so a soldier does not need to carry 3 seperate bottles in the field.
                  It's not very good at C, L or P, but it works when it's all you have.
                  Randall Rausch

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                  • #10
                    metalhead357
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 5546

                    Originally posted by savasyn
                    Hmmm, that's the opposite of what I was told about the Mosin bolt.

                    Out of curiosity, what is the problem with grease?

                    I'd prefer to use CLP as I'm using it elsewhere on the rifle.
                    Grease can/does actually act more STICKY than slippery- especially when the weather tiurns cold. WWII stories of RUSSIAN soldiers mixing alcohol with grease just to get thier guns to fire......

                    Now a LITTLE....I said a LITTLE probably wont do *bad* things but bolts/firing pins are USUALLY meant for oil. Not sure where you heard to use grease...but either way- if you DO decide to use grease- make sure you clean EACH time you fire (at the end of each outting) as the grease acts like a friggin' magnet for any blowby and that'll certainly gun you up. About the only reason I can think it'd be ok to use grease on a Moisin and not a Mauser is that mauser's do tend to have tighter tolerances from what I have read; I've never broken out a mic to check....but there you have it.

                    Personally I LOVE grease as it stays where it should....but I just dont think it should be staying IN your bolt...maybe ON the cylinder sleeve.....
                    I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered....
                    I am not a number! I am a free man

                    1.)All humanity would be better off if Stoooopid hurt.
                    2.)Why is it that if guns are sooooo unsafe that you're 9 times more likely to die at the hands of your doctor?
                    3.)Remember...Buy it cheap & stack it deep

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                    • #11
                      savasyn
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2007
                      • 3201

                      Ah, got it.
                      Yeah, I'm ONLY using the grease on the lugs and the areas that they ride on. I'm NOT using any on the internals of the bolt.
                      Tomorrow I'll see about removing it all and using regular oil.

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                      • #12
                        savasyn
                        Veteran Member
                        • Aug 2007
                        • 3201

                        Ok, I finally posted the pix of this rifle in the gallery forum. Here's the link:

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                        • #13
                          smle-man
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 10580

                          Your rifle looks very nice. It appears to be a WW2 rebuild since it has a SA42 dated barrel - very common on the rebuilds. The C stock may have been added at that time or later when the rifle was in Greek service. The s.n. stamped on the stock and etched on the bolt are indications of a Greek rifle. Yours is almost certainly a CMP sales rifle since the 03s returned by the Greeks were sold via the CMP.

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                          • #14
                            savasyn
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 3201

                            Cool, thanks for the info!
                            Hopefully I'll get to go shoot it in the next week or two.

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