my turkish mauser

[Shrubmaster]

So I got a turkish mauser from a friend that was in need of some help, the stock was covered in gunk, the front sight was loose, and the firing pin spring was dead (lots of light primer strikes).

So... the issue

After striping the stock for the second time, an outlined green number "25" showed up on the left side of the stock about 2.5 inches tall. BUT, it's almost completely faded now, what does this mean? The other thing, I've found multiple repairs done to stock, but all were done well enough to keep the stock. After striping and steaming the stock, the wood is beautiful.

All numbers match with the exception of the bolt.

With that said, I don't think itsgoing to have boat loads of collector value when I'm done and I'm thinking about doing a claw mount and scope. But I don't want to dice up the stock if its some rare training rifle. Plus the bore looks great!

Please give me your comments, concerns, advice.

I'll post up some pics for required gun porn when I'm able to

[Shrubmaster]

also, is there a scope mount specific to the turkish mauser? As in a mount that was using fifty years ago.

[CDFingers]

Another option is to use a scout mount, which replaces the ladder rear sight on the Turks. There is no drilling, so you can put it back to normal quite easily. These mounts are less than $50 in a variety of configurations. It requires a long eye relief scope, like used on hunting hand guns.

CDFingers

[Shrubmaster]

you're correct, 1944 K KALE

[paul0660]

I don't know what the stock number means. Is it etched? I would guess so since you have worked on the stock.

A 44 K Kale isn't that special, and I would have no reservations about making it a good shooter with a scope. I WOULD check the headspace, because, as far as I know, these guns were not rearsenaled. and the bolt should match. My 03 does.

[gun toting monkeyboy]

I would just go with the non-permanant scout mount. No point in buggering up a rifle just to make a second-rate sproter out of it. The wood is often Turkish walnut. I have a couple of them that have what would be considered extra fancy wook today. Under all the gunk, you will often find some truly beautiful wood. The firing pin issue could be cosmoline caked arounf the mainspring. Take it all down and clean it well. Replacement front sights can be had at e-gunparts.com. If you still have the urge to make a sporter, get one that has already been butchered instead of one that still has mostly original parts.

-Mb

[Shrubmaster]

Which model do you have specifically? I've got one of those Turkish Model of 1938 marked "K. Kale". From what I can tell they're essentially the same as the German versions of the rifle, but possibly with large shank and are the most common. Since the numbers don't match I want to assume it's this series of rifles.

If you're trying to mount a scope you're going to need to have a gunsmith drill and tap the receiver and then bend the bolt so it won't get in the way. There are also a couple other options out there like mounting a scope scout style with special rails that replace the rear leaf sight. (Mine doesn't sit very tight.)

Value wise the only one I've seen cheaper is the Yugo which I hear has decent performance, but hover around $200 per rifle. I've seen Turks go for up to $270. I bought mine from a gun shop for that price (my first purchase ever) a while back. It has a bright bore with strong rifling and no crown damage. Although even now I'm still trying to tame the thing while shooting and have just recently been able to get under 10" groups at 100 meters with iron sights and surplus ammo. Had a skilled friend get fist sized groupings.

I looked around for other Turkish mausers as well, but couldn't find any with scopes on them. All of them appear to be straight bolt handled.

Care to post some pics?

[Shrubmaster]

I would just go with the non-permanant scout mount. No point in buggering up a rifle just to make a second-rate sproter out of it. The wood is often Turkish walnut. I have a couple of them that have what would be considered extra fancy wook today. Under all the gunk, you will often find some truly beautiful wood. The firing pin issue could be cosmoline caked arounf the mainspring. Take it all down and clean it well. Replacement front sights can be had at e-gunparts.com. If you still have the urge to make a sporter, get one that has already been butchered instead of one that still has mostly original parts.

-Mb

I got the sweets out and cleaned my bolt and the bolt of a friends chilean mauser, both had some serious caked on goop.

Big thanks for the tip on egunparts, although they stock little for my gun, my friend wasn't able to fin anything for his on going restoration and was thrilled with the site.

As far as scout mounts go, I'm not a fan of them and would prefer a claw mount. We'll see if I go that direction, I just found an od proof mark on the bottom of the stock.

[animal661]

when looking for Turk parts on Numrich look under Mauser 98 and scroll down

There are a lot of Turk parts in there - just have to look

I agree about keeping it stock or finding a buchered one to customize

The scout mounts will work well but require the mounts to be tight or they loose center

I looked around a while back and found a "project" sporterized turk

It had a sawed off barrell and rough stock
Now shortened to 18" and I'm milling a brake into the last inch

Started out bubba'd by someone else and going to be my cheap scout rifle