CMP sales and AB809

[TregoMark]

Librarian noted over on the 2nd amendment forum that CMP sales will have to go through an FFL once this new law takes effect. Isn't that just great.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

For what it's worth, the CMP has been shipping non-C&R firearms and firearms less than 50 years old to Californians for a long time. This would seem to be in violation of California law. If CalDOJ doesn't make a stink then maybe the CMP will keep shipping directly to Californians. Or if we make a big deal about AB 809 and word gets back to the CMP then maybe they will stop.

[TregoMark]

I forgot about the Kimbers and the other misc auction rifles like Rem 700s. I'm sure someone will feel the need to bring it to the CMP's attention. Loose lips sink ships.

[jrr]

I believe cmp has some special dispensation from congress that bypasses local and state law.... probably should look it up before we get all bent.

[Mssr. Eleganté]

I believe cmp has some special dispensation from congress that bypasses local and state law.... probably should look it up before we get all bent.

Their special dispensation from Congress allows them to bypass Federal law. But local and State laws, no.

Public Law 104-106

"National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 1996"

TITLE XVI--CORPORATION FOR THE PROMOTION OF RIFLE PRACTICE AND FIREARMS SAFETY

Section 1614(e)(2) Paragraphs (1), (2), (3), and (5) of section 922(a) of title 18, United States Code, do not apply to the shipment, transportation, receipt, transfer, sale, issuance, loan, or delivery by the Corporation of any item that the Corporation is authorized to issue, loan, sell, or receive under this title.

[kurac]

Great, now its just a matter of time before someone has to show how smart they are and "ask Orest"

[Mssr. Eleganté]

Great, now its just a matter of time before someone has to show how smart they are and "ask Orest"

Yeah, I'm not even going to look at the "ask Orest" forum, 'cause I know there's probably already at least one person there asking about AB809.

[aghauler]

For what it's worth, the CMP has been shipping non-C&R firearms and firearms less than 50 years old to Californians for a long time. This would seem to be in violation of California law. If CalDOJ doesn't make a stink then maybe the CMP will keep shipping directly to Californians. Or if we make a big deal about AB 809 and word gets back to the CMP then maybe they will stop.

Seems that Orest Michaels, COO of CMP is already aware of this and they are "looking into it". It's already been brought to thier attention. We'll have to wait until they determine what they'll do. And I also thought that special dispensation fro Congress might negate the CA law. BB

[Eljay]

It's not even clear what, if any, rifles they'll even have left in 2014.

It's possible when they wrote the CA law this was a situation they didn't really think about. But the CMP isn't immune to state law - they ship to FFLs in NJ.

[TregoMark]

It's not even clear what, if any, rifles they'll even have left in 2014.

It's possible when they wrote the CA law this was a situation they didn't really think about. But the CMP isn't immune to state law - they ship to FFLs in NJ.

I was wondering how the CMP handled New Jersey. They will most certainly do the same for CA after 2014. As far as the CMP supply goes, if they don't get a new influx of rifles they may very well exhaust their supply of Garands by 2014.

[aghauler]

It's not even clear what, if any, rifles they'll even have left in 2014.

It's possible when they wrote the CA law this was a situation they didn't really think about. But the CMP isn't immune to state law - they ship to FFLs in NJ.

Would that be 01 FFLs only or both 01 FFL's and 3 FFL's?

[Eljay]

Turns out they also need a state license - here's an article about it

http://bulletin.accurateshooter.com/2010/04/new-jersey-requires-cmp-rifles-to-ship-to-nj-licensed-ffls/

[aghauler]

Is that a "buiness license" Or a state FFL license?

Thanks for the link. BB

[Eljay]

Googling around a bit - there's something called a "Retail Firearms Dealer's License" in NJ and there's a wholesale version as well. If you're curious past that I suggest you try a few searches - the NJ firearms situation is really bad/depressing - all kinds of permits just to buy a gun, stricter transportation rules than we have here, etc. etc. It's just endless and my interest in figuring out the details is very low, as you might imagine!

[aghauler]

Eljay
Thanks for the info I was just a little curious as I'm not familiar with the NJ laws but have heard they're "worse than Kalif". With all those restrictive laws I'm sure that it has had a very positive effect on lowering the Crime Rate in NJ!