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  • metalliman545
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    • May 2010
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    quick question on my wasr-10

    It was built in 1967 at least that's the reciever date, so in 2017 would that make it c&r eligible?
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    dotalchemy
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    • Apr 2011
    • 958

    Yep, providing it's in it's original armory condition*.

    Originally posted by ATF C&R Site
    Firearms automatically attain C&R status when they are 50 years old. Any firearm that is at least 50 years old, and in its original configuration, would qualify as a C&R firearm. It is not necessary for such firearms to be listed in ATF’s C&R list.


    *clearly, it can be battered to hell and back. You just can't have new parts on it, like a sport stock that was manufactured yesterday.
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      yellowsled
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      • Apr 2011
      • 343

      Being a WASR, doesnt that make it a parts kit that was assembled here?

      WASR was given to the rifle by the importer upon re-assembly i believe.
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        Mssr. Eleganté
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        • Oct 2005
        • 10401

        Originally posted by metalliman545
        It was built in 1967 at least that's the reciever date, so in 2017 would that make it c&r eligible?
        Are you sure that 1967 is stamped on the receiver? Or is it stamped on the front trunnion? The Romanians assembled WASR rifles from surplus parts. I suspect that your front trunnion was made in 1967. Your rifle was probably assembled on a new receiver much more recently.
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        • #5
          Mssr. Eleganté
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          • Oct 2005
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          Originally posted by dotalchemy
          Yep, providing it's in it's original armory condition*.


          *clearly, it can be battered to hell and back. You just can't have new parts on it, like a sport stock that was manufactured yesterday.
          Romanian WASR rifles are imported as sporting rifles. They are not milsurp rifles. Milsurp rifles can only be imported if they are C&R. The whole "original military configuration" thing doesn't apply to C&R commercial sporting firerarms.

          You might buy a Ruger 10/22 tomorrow from a custom builder that totally changed the look of the rifle. Fifty years later that rifle will become C&R, even though it is not in Ruger factory original condition.
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          • #6
            metalliman545
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            • May 2010
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            But with ak isn't the front trunion the actual 'registered' part? It was the left side near the barrel so it could be the trunion. Ill check next friday, rife is in ca, I'm ga. One more week left in the army

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              tujungatoes
              Calguns Addict
              • Dec 2006
              • 7942

              No. the receiver is considered the firearm, and carries the serial number. The trunnion is just another part. The number on it is irrelevant.

              Also, long guns are not registered in CA.
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                metalliman545
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                • May 2010
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                I know they aren't registered. Which is why I said 'registered'. Also I looked it up the atf considers the trunion the 'reciever' without a trunion the reciever is just a piece of bent sheet metal.

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                • #9
                  tujungatoes
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                  • Dec 2006
                  • 7942

                  Originally posted by metalliman545
                  I know they aren't registered. Which is why I said 'registered'. Also I looked it up the atf considers the trunion the 'reciever' without a trunion the reciever is just a piece of bent sheet metal.
                  ....Got a link to where you looked that up? I think you're greatly mistaken.

                  Having built an AK or two(figures may not be entirely accurate), I remember buying a receiver with no trunnion in it and still having to go through an FFL because the bent piece of sheetmetal was considered the receiver. I've also had "several" trunnions shipped directly to my home which would be quite illegal if your information proved to be correct.
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                  • #10
                    Mssr. Eleganté
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                    • Oct 2005
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                    Originally posted by metalliman545
                    I know they aren't registered. Which is why I said 'registered'. Also I looked it up the atf considers the trunion the 'reciever' without a trunion the reciever is just a piece of bent sheet metal.
                    And ATF knows that the front trunnion is not the receiver. That's why they said 'receiver'.
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