Dad's old guns

[snapdragon]

I found these while cleaning out the garage. I know the two small ones are 22s - a Remington 22 Short Long Target Master Model 510 and Stevens Model 73 22 Short Long Savage Arms (?????). The one I'm trying to identify is a big heavy shotgun. I can't find any identifying marks, except for a design on the butt-end.

Can anyone recommend a shop in the San Jose area where I might take these to have them looked at? I'm not looking to make money off them, I would like them to go to someone who might appreciate them.

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I'd appreciate any help you can give!

[John Browning]

There should be some markings underneath the barrels and on the reciever. If you can post pics, that can at least help us narrow down the country of origin.

[TRICKSTER]

The Remington 510 was made from 1939-1962. Odd are that yours is over 50 years old and can be sold FTF cash and carry. You can find the manufacture date by looking at the barrel codes and comparing it to the info here. http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums...ead.php?t=9555

Good chance that the Savage will also be over 50 years old.
Do a little internet research and sell them here on in the sales forum.
A dealer wont even pay half of what they are worth and the people here will appreciate the rifles and take good care of them

[five.five-six]

A dealer wont even pay half of what they are worth and the people here will appreciate the rifles and take good care of them

^that^

[Peter in CA]

five.five-six

Open the shotgun and see if there are any markings visible when the barrels tip up.

Peter in CA

[jcoenenberg]

Looks like an Ithica early 1900

[Mike A]

Pull the forend off and look on the barrel flats where they mate with the receiver top and the "water table," the corresponding flats on the reciever. There will be proofmarks there that will almost certainly tell country of origin, and may well tell you mfr. and aprox. date. If you can't do a clear photo of those marks and post it here, write them down and describe them. If folks on this board can't help, I will post a couple of forums that can (specific shotgun forums for collectors).

The shotgun isn't an Ithica because it has sidelocks. The only common American made sidelocks are L.C. Smiths, Lefevers, and a host of "hardware store" doubles like Crescents. My GUESS is it is one of the latter, or a hardware store brand made in Belgium. Most farmers had 'em: they brought home the bacon and kept the wolf away from the door!

[G-forceJunkie]

The buttplate sure looks like an "L" an "C" and "S" overlayed on one another.

The shotgun isn't an Ithica because it has sidelocks. The only common American made sidelocks are L.C. Smiths, ....

[bruceflinch]

That shotgun is a nice project. The 22's are in real nice shape.

[snapdragon]

Thank you for all the replys and PMs. I'll try and see if I can find anything else to identify the shotgun and ID the 22's.

I wasn't planning on having a dealer buy them, just help me identify them. The more I think about it, I probably should ask my brothers if either of them are intereseted in keeping them.

[brantly04]

looks kind of like my remington marking on my .204

[Mike A]

The double looks like it may be a 10 guage; try a 12 guage hull in it; if it is VERY loose, the gun is a 10 (very popular in those days). I wouldn't shoot any modern shell in it in any case; best to remove any rust with bronze wool and Kroil and hang it on the wall. If it's an LC Smith, it has a little collector value, but very little because of condition. Great heirloom, tho!

The 510 is a very good little .22 if its bore is good. Parts are available, too.

[JaMail]

if you dont plan on shooting it, dont touch the patina at all.

[Matches]

if you dont plan on shooting it, dont touch the patina at all.

Truth.

There isn't anything you can do to help it really, only detract from what it is. That is a beautiful old gun!